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  • Kodak Ektasound Moviedecks

    Hey, I saw one of these at the local thrift store. Too pricey, but what interested me, is that it not only was the sound model, but it also had recording capability. I used to have one of these, but i don't remember it having recording capability. Did all the sound decks have this feature, or was this a later and more advanced model?

  • #2
    Hi Osi. Don't remember the record but I do remember it had a 3 watt amplifier. Funny how we only remember the odd little thing over the years from the memory bank. May have had record as mid 70's everything seemed to be about sound.

    My local cine dealer had one in store and he pulled the film off the reel then posted that into a slot never to be seen again mid 70's that is. Funny REELY

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    • #3
      Mine (retired now) was always really gentle on film and was incredibly easy to use. It has a slide out screen: really useful for 50 footers fresh from processing.

      The weakness is that these have that classic Kodak plastic gearing: particularly the gear that spins the shutter is liable to fracture. There are people that offer a repair, but I decided to just mothball the thing. I won't even toss it since it was my first projector back about 43 years ago.

      -besides, a 50W lamped, silent machine with a 400 foot maximum reel capacity isn't going to get a lot of job offers here these days!

      Back in the day, it was a great FIRST projector!

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      • #4
        I was always fascinated with it's laying flat design, instead of upright. Boy, if your film broke, it could be a bi*ch getting it back out!

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        • #5
          Wellll...

          -maybe not much different than a Eumig 800 Series: in that case the film was entirely enclosed within the sound head, for the Moviedeck it was within the gate. Besides, access to the film path was pretty decent apart from at the gate. If you took off the bottom cover and then the take-up reel much, maybe all of the film path after the gate was accessible.

          Cleaning the gate was a major problem: it was entirely surrounded by the machine and the best access was by taking a long brush, removing the lens and twiddling the bristles through the lens mount. Accessing the gate's film contact surfaces directly was basically impossible.

          It also has the most terrifying rewind in the history of motion pictures! The tail of the film is meant to be fixed to the reel. At the end, the film tension rises up, trips a switch, which retracts the claw and causes the machine to leap into rewind through the same film path. The lamp is always on, so now you are looking at the same film you just saw streaming backwards in a high-speed blur! It's not that this damaged any of my earliest prints, it's just the very idea of what could happen if something went wrong!

          Every once in a great while I've run one of my oldest films through a later bought sound machine and the end of the reel comes along with a chewing sound as the claws eat the perfs in the tail: an old one is still set up for the Moviedeck. Over the years I've caught and fixed all of these...I think!

          -fortunately even as a fairly goofy 16 or 17 year old (-once I locked my keys in my first car with the engine running!), I was wise enough to end my films in acetate leader!

          It is amazingly quiet: once you start projection and close the top cover, it's almost silent.

          This thing is actually a piece of history: the home movie market was changing: VCRs were already on the horizon and Kodak wanted to break the mold and give people something "modern" (-or at least "different"). It was so different that when I used it, people said "Slides? You said we were seeing movies!".

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          • #6
            I still have 2 of these projectors (still working)...both have sound, but not recording. Osi...what is the model number on the MovieDeck you saw?

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            • #7
              This Kodak Daylight Projector, I wonder was it any good for a Basic Film to Video Transfer, of the Daylight Screen?

              https://www.ebay.com/itm/26520946533...EAAOSwS-ZgbR7K

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              • #8
                I'll have to look at it again when I go to the thrift store again Friday. I doubt that it will sell and will still be there.

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                • #9
                  I very much doubt most people will even know what it is! (slide projector?, phonograph??)

                  -and SOUND, no less! That was actually a pretty rare animal even back in the day. When I was growing up, I knew a number of families that had "home movies", but all of them had them silent. The very first sound projector I ever saw was my own when I decided to break the sound barrier 20 years ago.

                  The first time I set this up at a family gathering, I put out an external speaker.
                  "-What's THAT for?"

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                  • #10
                    The Van Eck site says the model 285 Moviedeck also had recording capabilities.

                    Kodak Ektasound moviedeck 285 – Spare Part Finder – Van Eck Video Services (van-eck.net)

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