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I think that perhaps, another reason why films are believed to be worse as a general rule, is a lack of actors or actresses that really have "Marquee value". That is, there are few actors today that I see that, if they come out with a new film, I say to myself, "So and so is putting out a new film? I gotta see it!'. I really don't see any actors today that have that "Ommph" to they're name, and the fewer and fewer of the classic stars that are still working, are pretty much in they're last year's of work, and are not at they're peak anymore. So, there could still be really good film-making taking place, but no really great actors to give that good production value any glamour to make people want to see them.
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During the 90s into the early 2000s we had a continuance supply of great thriller / dramas, it seemed like there was one released every week.
Films like Patriot Games, Erin Brockovich, The Green Mile, Double Jeopardy, In the Line of Fire, ect. All of these films had you gripped on the edge of your seat. And with no CGI insight, just a very good script and some great acting. and like a tap being turned off they stopped being produced overnight.
You knew when you looked at a film poster and it had the names like Tommy lee Jones, Ed Harris, Michelle Pfeiffer, that you were going to be in for a treat.
We then after Disney's pixar release of Toy Story had a procession of these crudely made Dreamworks animation's, that could never live up to or compete with Pixar's. But the general public seemed to lap them up for some reason.
I think after this the writing was on wall for the industry.
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It all started about early 2000s. Hollywood stopped making films with story or language concentrated with visual cgi movies which are “worldwide” market. Studios are making millions /billions of dollars so don’t care. Don’t blame young actors they are basically reacting to blue screen so don’t get chance to act or get traction as stars or name recognition
Wait until they get the technology to regenerate old dead stars. Or create young image of older stars. (They did it in The Irishman Robert De Niro & Joe Pesci. They can get them on the cheap.
Forgot to mention the inbult Woke agenda which restricts the making of a whole range of films plus they have to have politically correct script agenda. They don’t qualify for awards otherwise.
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Think of one movie that Clint Eastwood made between Spaghetti westerns in 1960s to The Unforgiven that could be made today. Mind you The Beguiled was remade in 2017 with Nicole Kidman that says it all. It was on some tv channel recently I avoided it.
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As an actor, I'm biased...can only discuss this in person, too much to typeComment
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Mike, sad to say that takes place today. Well, not dead actors per se, (although they used a body double alike for Brandon Lee during the making of the crow, as he died during the making), it is already used to at least de age actors. For instance, they do a few aged Harrison Ford for the Indiana Jones flashbacks in the upcoming film, although in this kind of a case, It's understandable.Comment
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One word - DIVERSITY.
Movies from, say, 90's or even up to early 2000's would come in so many different genre that you could ever imagine. From some no-budget Indy films to $200 millions James Cameron - sized movie, you have it all. Unfortunately now we only have those superhero blockbuster franchise and that's all. For people who does not appreciate these superhero blockbuster franchise (like me), you literally have no choice.
However that diversity now seems to move to streaming service instead. So we still have the choice, sort of.Comment
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Almost like theatre in London (West End) recently - mainly musicals rather than drama.Comment
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Joe, I didn’t know you were an actor what have you been in?Comment
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Bang on Mike, decent film makers may as well give up.we now have the new WOKE, we can only hope someone sees sense at some point.Originally posted by Mike Newell View Post
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Absolutely right Alan . Nepotism has always been rife in the arts both acting and the behind the scenes crafts. You had to be related to someone to get your foot in the door. Never mind if you have no talent. Check out best supporting actress. Plus as previously stated you can’t pick your tools for the job anymore. You have to work off an agreed check list. A case of fitting square pegs into round holes. Loved to see the reactions of Ford Peckipah or Huston to that idea.
Another factor is the length of movies 3 hours plus is not uncommon. The best length for movies is 100 minutes think Robin Hood or Singin in the Rain and a host of others.
The classic Hammer movies were rarely over 85 minutes such as Curse of Frankenstein and Dracula.Comment
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Not only concise storytelling but ofetn (with Hammer) a double bill so even if one film didn't seem completely tou thing the other one might.Comment
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There are good films being made alongside the formulaic stuff. It’s just a different era. Things are done differently. I see no more reason to compare film of today with film from the 90s or early 2000s than I do to compare films from the 1970s with film from the 1930s.Comment
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I’m quite often do a double bill of Hammer in the cinema.Originally posted by Brian Fretwell View PostComment
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The better stuff is being made by Netflix and Amazon or Indie films. Unfortunately, the mainstream cinema is dominated by Disney with Marvel and Star Wars with other studios following their lead. It will end up with streaming as opposed to attending the cinema.Originally posted by Michael O’Regan View PostComment
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Joe can you tell us what films you took part in?Last edited by Phil Moors; March 17, 2023, 03:03 PM.Comment
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