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Topic: Which Is A Good STD 8 Sound Projector?
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Dan Lail
Film God
Posts: 2110
From: Loganville, Georgia, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 13, 2010 10:18 PM
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Dan, are you just beginning to become curious about STD 8 Sound film or are you just looking for a replacement for something that broke? Phil Johnson is a great resource for this kind of stuff. Call him. He often has items for sale that he doesn't always list on his site. He's pricey, but all his stuff is fully refurbished by him, personally, and comes with a 30-day warranty against defects which is quite rare for today being that EVERYTHING is a refurb since there's no more NEW. He'll answer as many questions as you like. Very nice man.
Brad, I am fascinated with std 8 sound film. I guess it has something to do with having a std 8 silent projector in our family when I was a younger kid :-) I do have a vintage 1960 Fujica Sound Std 8 machine. Works great too, but only has 400' reel capacity. Looks like I will keep hunting for a Eumig 810D. I'll be happy with that. I do know Phil Johnson and have spoken to him on the phone. Heck of good guy with strict ethics. I have bought films from him also.
Steve, I too thought extending the take up arm would put stress on the film transport system, but maybe not.
Frank, that's a vintage machine in Australia, but looks like 400' capacity.
John B., I've heard of the Calvin, but never seen one yet.
Thanks everyone. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1149
From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted October 13, 2010 10:52 PM
At some point it becomes: do you want really long reels or not? There is not much in between once you get past 1200/1600 feet.
If you can find one, the Eiki Long-Play unit, made for 16mm, will happily take either Standard-8 or Super-8 films.
It is a carefully made machine that will accept everything from very small 8mm reels up to 6000-ft 8/16mm films.
The motor and the electronics, although primarily designed for 16mm, happily throttle down to handle the much smaller weight of the 8mm reels without ripping anything to pieces.
What you need are the brass 8mm reel adapters for the reels, a roller for the front arm of your projector and some monster reels to hold complete features. The last may in fact become the greatest expense apart from the print.
At 6000-ft capacity, you could do "Ben Hur" or "The 10 Commandments" in Super-8, with opening newsreels, cartoons, and antr'acte music without ever stopping the projector :-)...at least as I remember the run time in '8' along with the adjusted capacity from 16 to 8mm.
This is it:
I pay this device my ultimate compliment: I will sit down and watch a film, and only rarely turn around to make sure it is running right. It's that good and gentle.
Claus
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"Why are there shots of deserts in a scene that's supposed to take place in Belgium during the winter?" (Review of 'Battle of the Bulge'.)
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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1149
From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted October 13, 2010 11:13 PM
Dan,
It doesn't come around that often, but, as with so many things, EBay provided
As I understand it, the motor and electronics come from the 9100-series pedestal Eiki Xenons (please correct me if I got the number wrong.)
It marries a good strong motor to some amazingly well-tuned electronics, to the point that my "worst case testing scenario", a 100-ft super-8 plastic-reel (weighing nothing) still played fine, albeit with just a bit more 'tug' than intended.
This from a unit designed to run and rewind 16mm features weighing many many pounds...whoever designed this loved film.
It runs forward only, with both reels side-by-side. You flip the reel to the opposite spindle to rewind after a screening.
If you find one, get it. It is a neat, space-saving invention that allows the ultimate luxury: a full feature without change-over, where you too can sit down and enjoy.
Claus.
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"Why are there shots of deserts in a scene that's supposed to take place in Belgium during the winter?" (Review of 'Battle of the Bulge'.)
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