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Claus Harding
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Hi All,
Here we go...first batch from Number 20. Bear with me if there are slight gaps in my postings, but they'll all get there.
You do the usual: after I have posted, someone put a quick note as response so all the posts can stay in one thread.

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You know the old saying about how "When one door closes, another opens"? Well, that's what happened to CineSea this time.

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I can't have been the only one who had a 'sinking feeling' when I read Doug's initial e-mail about how our old faithful Ocean Holiday hotel had been sold to be renovated, and that the hunt was on for new accomodations. Thanks to Doug and to Lou for his legwork, we wound up almost right across the street at the Shalimar:

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A lovely hotel with great staff, the same room rates, pool and a heated enclosed meeting room :-) Now all we had to do was get to work and fit ourselves in to the new environment:

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Windows had to be blacked out:

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...and our screen frame, coming with us from the Ocean Holiday, had to be assembled:

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That's the start. More to come.
Claus.

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Janice Glesser
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Can't wait to see more Claus [Smile] Looks like a great venue. What did you use to blackout the windows?

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Janice

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Paul Adsett
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Window Blackout! [Big Grin]
(Sorry Janice, I could not resist [Smile] )

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Douglas Meltzer
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Thank you Claus! What a great start.

The Franchetti's get all the credit for finding the Shalimar. When Lou called to tell me, I was ecstatic since I really thought CineSea was done for, at least this year. I drove out that weekend to check it out and thought it was perfect.

Janice, I'm not sure exactly what material Joe Greisbach kindly brought with him on Thursday. What worked well was that it wasn't 100% opaque so that we had a decent general ambient light level while still able to project in the room during the day. Huge thanks to Joe and to everyone who came in a day early to help with the setup.

Our previous space had a 10' tall ceiling....exactly the height of our screen's frame. The new room has a height of 9'. The 1" conduit pipe had to be cut down and a cross bar added to keep the screen fabric taut. This worked out well.

Doug

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Claus Harding
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Gary Crawford and I had arrived on Thursday, and more people had made the same decision, to extend the week-end and make the most of the event. Of course, when Gary and Shorty Caruso get together, you have to keep an eye on them. Small wonder Mr. Boland looks worried...

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As Doug mentioned, the screen was just a little taller than the room:

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...however, with some trimming of the pipes...

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...the screen fit as if it had been made for the space. The hotel was very accomodating in removing some ceiling lamps to allow for as clean a throw as possible:

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Come Friday morning, a tradition: the early birds went for breakfast in Cape May at Uncle Bill's

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After this, it was back to the hotel for the real setup to start.

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More next time.
C.

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Douglas Meltzer
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Now I have this craving for pancakes......

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Claus Harding
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Time to get everyone and everything in place:

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With the new space, we still had two absolutes: the big screen and the throw distance, and the "island" where the Super-8/16mm/35mm machines would sit for the main screenings. Little by little it came together:

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Shorty Caruso got going on his 8mm film history table:

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We figured out a good efficient layout for all the tables so everyone could be comfortable and able to move around. Gary Sloan started setting up:

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Meanwhile, people were arriving. Jason, our long-distance traveller from Japan, joined us again:

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...and it was time to catch up on contact info and life in general:

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Gary got a comfy corner for his Pageant and his Super-8:

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...and Geoffrey started prepping the 35mm:

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More to come.
C.

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Douglas Meltzer
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There is always so much to bring in and set up. If only CineSea could be longer. More on that thought later....

Doug

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Paul Adsett
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Geoffrey's 35mm projector looks amazing!

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Dominique De Bast
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Janice, at the 9.5 convention in Harpenden (UK) last Sunday, the Windows were blackouted with black cloths held with shower rods (like this : https://www.manomano.fr/p/tringle-pour-rideau-de-douche-reglable-aluminium-couleur-blanc-reference-05778-7286914?product_id=7558620)

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Paul Adsett
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In the USA Joanne's Fabrics sells window blackout by the yard. It works great, NO light gets through it.

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Janice Glesser
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Thanks Dominique and Paul. Good to know [Smile]

I'm starting to recognize faces each time I see the Cinesea photos. What a great group of attendees!

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Steve Klare
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We're an interesting bunch! -Many very different people. It's hard to generalize other than to say we all love film!

What's nice about is after twenty of these we've formed kind of a community, and every time has the feeling of a reunion.

I loved the Ocean Holiday: it was far from the perfect venue, but after a while it became kind of like an old pair of shoes: either it adapted to you or you adapted to it and it was comfortable.

-Yet, it is nice not wearing a jacket to Saturday Night Show!

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Graham Ritchie
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[Smile] [Cool]

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Claus Harding
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Getting things set up also meant putting up our logo and some beautiful foam-core-mounted posters:

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...and then it was time to start digging in bins, talking and screening:

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One of the more amazing offerings this time was a big collection of Standard-8 silent classics, everything from Stroheim to Fairbanks. If they had been in Super-8 or (heaven forbid) 16mm, I might just have gone a bit crazy, since that's one of my areas in film:

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Gotta check the prints. Why not with a cellphone:

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The hallmark of a showman: whether it's on a tabletop or in an auditorium, a good presentation is a good presentation...

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...the right angle of screen and projector, a sound processor and a mixer to maximize the limited frequency range of 16mm, a pair of small but suitable speakers and a decent print. Voila, miniature cinema. I can vouch for the little Da-Lite screen, having had one for decades; they are incredibly convenient and compact:

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Somehow, there are always some films you've just got to take home:

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These images on display are a good reminder that "we are not alone" at CineSea. Along with our friends in Britain and elsewhere, every show helps keep the flame alive. We can argue over many things, but not over the basic idea that we are (here it comes again...) custodians of both home-release films and, increasingly, also of cinema films:

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More to come. A bit slow in processing and posting this time due to work, but we'll get there.

C.

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Mike Spice
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Thank You so much for taking the time to post these photos.

A) I am so envious I couldn't fly there to enjoy it
B) I am so envious of you guys all hugging and getting together to enjoy cine
C) I want pancakes

A venue that takes out ceiling lights for the projector throw?
bonus, hang on to that venue!

What a great experience for you....

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Steve Klare
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The selection was nice this time:

-I not only bought my first 16mm CineSea print, but found it about four friends for the ride home.

What's also nice is we've gotten to know each other and our likes, so at least two people came up to me: "Steve! There's a railroad film on Lou's table!"

-and yes, there was: nice one too!

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Claus Harding
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Mike, start saving for the next one. We'd love to have you, and then you could have pancakes [Smile]

Claus.

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Douglas Meltzer
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Just when I got over that pancake craving....

Doug

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Adrian Winchester
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Congratulations to all responsible for what was clearly a very enjoyable event. The initiative and skill shown in reducing the height of the screen was impressive! A floor to ceiling picture would worry me a little, though, unless it's possible to avoid sitting behind anyone else.

I wondered who made the Blackpool 2018 display, as that's a superb piece of work? If two film collecting events were ever 'twinned', CineSea and Blackpool would appear to be the obvious ones, although I'm guessing that CineSea visitors experience warmer coastal temperatures!

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Adrian, that collage was courtesy of David Lucidi, a top technician in the field and a truly caring individual. I had given him the materials and he created the fine tribute - More photos when I come there again and, I earnestly wish some of you chaps would come over here and we would have a bilateral event of it. We'd all have a fine time of it - Next one is April, the weather is fairly mild and a splendid time would be had by all - Cheers, Shorty

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Claus Harding
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As you may recall from the forum, the vote was put up for the Friday Night Feature at CineSea well before the event. This time around,"The Blob" was chosen, to be screened in 16mm. More on that in a bit:

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As always, looking at gear was fun. When you want to go "wide", the Rectimascope lens (owned by Gary Crawford and others) is a fine choice. The mount fits the hole on the Elmo St-1200...

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...and the lens, although stout, sits nicely on the machine:

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...and there you go, Super-8 scope ready for action:

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Steve Klare and Jack Cleveland, Jack proclaiming his love for all things Lucy and Desi (Jack told me of the wonderful museum in Lucille Ball's home town, Jamestown, NY, where they honor her career.)

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Come Friday night, we had a pre-show. A episode of the "Monkees" TV show reminded us that not all comedy dates equally well :-) Still, with Lon Chaney, Jr. guest starring, as always, it's fun to see things you don't watch every day:

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Time for "The Blob". This was a new experience, at least for your Trusty Reporter (!), as the film was a "Marco Print". In other words, it was printed to 16mm from a digital source.

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The quality was very good. It leads to some interesting philosophizing about film prints, doesn't it? Some might say it's heresy to go this route, while others might simply want a good print, given the state of so many color prints these days. It's truly something new in the hobby:

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A great night was had by all, and we looked forward to Saturday.

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There will be more...

C.

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Dominique De Bast
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Thanks, Claus !

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Steve Klare
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"Marco Print", you say?

I'm shocked! My only reaction at the time was "What a nice print!".

It's not even as if it skated by on a small screen: this is a seriously large screen, especially by the standards of what any of us could ever do at home!

I enjoyed The Blob. I hadn't seen it in so long I forgot it's color. It's really good to go back and give the classics like this a good look on a big screen and appreciate them for what they are.

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John Armer
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Amazing to think that I have been at Cinesea. Well, a photographic likeness of me on the Blackpool 2018 board, but nevertheless, I was there!

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