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Jorg Stover
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 - posted April 30, 2019 04:55 PM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello,

I need for my Elmo 16mm-Projector the mentioned lens.

Does somebody have one for sale?

Thank you and best wishes

Jorg

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted May 15, 2019 11:44 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have a nice 25mm, F 1.3 for 16mm. I used this for my Elmo 16CL.

Price is US$150 (or eqv. EUR 135) + shipping.

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This offer also opens to anyone interested

cheers,

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted May 16, 2019 10:07 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I see that Elmo describe the f1.8 12.5mm as "a unique super wide-angle lens".
Probably with a price to match. [Big Grin]

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted July 24, 2019 08:09 PM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm still searching for it...

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Mark Todd
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 - posted August 06, 2019 05:22 AM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Jorg, the Elmo is a great lens, but if you can get one there is a very nice Buhl 1.4 12.5mm about as well usually sleeved for an Elmo.

They have a good image maybe just a tad down on the 1.8 elmo.

Best Mark.

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted August 07, 2019 11:31 AM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Mark,

thank you very much for the advice! I will keep my eyes open also for this lens then!

J.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted August 07, 2019 12:02 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jorg... FYI...I just saw this on the U.S. Ebay. Not cheap!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ELMO-12-5-MM-F-1-8-LENS-FOR-16CL-16mm-SUPER-SIZE-IMAGE-CERTIFIED-GUARANTEED/113838035542?hash=item1a81469256:g:YSIAAOSwvFNdQagu

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Mark Todd
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No not so cheap, that is a bit too hot to handle Janice plus with import taxes etc to add as well coming this way. But looks nice.

You should get one for around £150 in the UK/ or EU Jorg with luck.

Best Mark.

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted August 09, 2019 12:03 AM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Janice,

thank you very much for the advice!

The seller doesn't accept lower prices and the listed price doesn't seem very realistic to me.
What I pity because the lens would have been useful for me.

Please let me know if you see another of these lenses somewhere.

Thanks and best wishes

Jorg

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted August 12, 2019 04:07 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I dont know about this lens but if the lens is rare, this is the time to buy. We never knew when it will come again We understand this is an expensive hobby.

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Mark Todd
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 - posted August 12, 2019 07:36 PM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
They are about Winbert.

Just here and there.

Best Mark.

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted August 20, 2019 03:48 PM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anybody know for how much this lens was sold on Ebay two days ago?

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Mark Todd
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 - posted August 20, 2019 05:34 PM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
$440 and plus post $48.50 if coming this way. + charges and fees etc.

Way over price.

The 20mm 1.4 is a far far better lens.

For What the 1.8 does its good but thats bonkers money.

Best Mark.

PS a 1.4 20mm with a zoom converter would get you down to 15/16mm and look as good.

[ August 20, 2019, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Mark Todd ]

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted August 21, 2019 10:49 AM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Mark,

thank you for the reply.

Unfortunately that is not correct: the zoom converter is not suitable for the 20mm lens. I have both and used together, they make distortions and are sharp only at the center of the image. So totally useless.

But I agree with you that the 20mm lens (used alone) is a good lens.

In any case, I am still searching for the 12.5mm lens.

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Mark Todd
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 - posted August 21, 2019 03:43 PM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Jorg my 20mm looks fine and sharp all over with the zoom converter on, very nice really.

I wonder if its a different style converter ?

Is it the black one like this ? mine is and 100% OK.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/ itm/ELMO-LARGE-DIAMETER-ZOOM-LENS-FOR-16CL-BIGGER-IMAGE-CERTIFIED-GUARANTEED/113827633602?hash=item1a80a7d9c2:g:b88AAOSw1MhdBm-G

Best Mark.

PS but thats a bit pricey too.

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted August 22, 2019 05:04 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Intersting. My Eiki converter doesn't work with a 25 mm lens (but it does with a 38 mm one) as a part of the picture is missing. Maybe there are different kind of converters like for Elmo ?

[ October 26, 2019, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Dominique De Bast ]

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted August 22, 2019 06:45 AM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, I have the black converter and it doesn't give excellent results.

The Eiki 25mm lens is not compatible for reducing further the focal distance with Eiki zoom converters.

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Mark Todd
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 - posted August 22, 2019 04:14 PM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thats odd Jorg mine looks great, there is just a small slip down in quality. But still nice.

I ran Twice Two tonight at a few sizes using the zoom on the 20mm, no issues at all, but obviously it was slightly better again then without it on.

I also popped in the Buhl 12.5mm and its huge, fairly sharp but obviously a big difference in quality, mainly I suppose as I`m only 10/12 feet or so feet from the screen.

Best Mark.

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Steven J Kirk
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 - posted September 12, 2019 08:27 AM      Profile for Steven J Kirk   Email Steven J Kirk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I use the Elmo zoom on the 20mm and the focus is good. The distortions are 'bowing', mostly at top and bottom at extreme wide setting. But not focus.

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted September 18, 2019 06:17 PM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
so maybe my zoom converter is not good because it's not perfectly sharp in the corners.

but it's strange because I have both lenses in the newer black version.

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Jorg Stover
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 - posted October 26, 2019 10:46 AM      Profile for Jorg Stover   Email Jorg Stover   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm still searching...

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Mark Todd
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 - posted October 28, 2019 06:11 PM      Profile for Mark Todd   Email Mark Todd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry to use this thread for a plug.

I`m selling a very nice proper factory made later Buhl 1.4 12.5mm lens for an Elmo 16mm.

Great image etc.

Best wishes Mark.

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