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Robert Crewdson
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- posted August 22, 2013 10:16 AM      Profile for Robert Crewdson     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The advertiser has ruined a Specto projector and turned it into some sort of lamp; wonder why he didn't just sell the projector as it was instead of ruining it then putting it up for sale. There are some idiots out there.
http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/108672308/aladdins-kampro-lamp-art-deco-era.html

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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- posted August 22, 2013 01:17 PM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
Very sad Robert, some of them view it as art.

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Dominique De Bast
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- posted August 22, 2013 04:31 PM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I sent a message to this...................persone. I havent't received any answer, yet.

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Robert Crewdson
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- posted August 23, 2013 02:48 AM      Profile for Robert Crewdson     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The fact that it was 75 years old, or so he says, means nothing to him. Money is more important.

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Paul Adsett
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- posted August 23, 2013 08:52 AM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
He says that this lamp would make a great conversation piece. I can assure him that the original full working Specto would make a much better one!
He also says "when they are gone.....", implying that he may be performing more labotomies on these beautiful machines. [Mad]

I recently purchased a projector lamp from the Cracker Barrel Old Country Store here in the USA. It looks just like a small Pathe Lux with a light and film themed lampshade on top. It cost me $19.95 and no vintage projector was mutilated to make it.

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Allan Broadfield
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- posted August 23, 2013 09:55 AM      Profile for Allan Broadfield   Author's Homepage   Email Allan Broadfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sacrilege! And it was in previously good working order, too. I have seen this advert before. What a philistine.
Unfortunately, old machines are often dumped, so perhaps he would call this a new use for a 'retro' object. I have tried to give away a Bell & Howell blimp projector (UK volts) in working order without any success, in these columns too. Just wanted to give to a good home, but nobody interested, apparently. Sign of the times.

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Robert Crewdson
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- posted August 23, 2013 10:05 AM      Profile for Robert Crewdson     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You might have read my earlier post where someone on Preloved wanted a 400ft reel, and would have bought a film I advertised only to throw the film away and keep the empty reel. The film was an extract from 'The Little Ballerina' (1948) one of Lewis Gilbert's first features.

Have you noticed everyone is buying gold or silver for scrap value, doesn't matter about workmanship.

Just checked out his advert, it's the same guy that contacted me. Worse news, he has 11 other projectors from Bolex to Bell & Howell, all mutilated. This guy is a public menace.

Just look at these pictures: https://secure.preloved.co.uk/member/profile/2013243638/2011f1ad.html?advertId=108672308

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Dominique De Bast
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- posted August 23, 2013 11:39 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's incredible to see what he already ruined ! This guy is a public danger !

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Joe McAllister
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- posted August 23, 2013 02:37 PM      Profile for Joe McAllister   Email Joe McAllister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This object has already been listed on eBay UK obviously without selling. With no takers there will be no reason for him to ruin another machine.

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Robert Crewdson
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- posted August 23, 2013 02:51 PM      Profile for Robert Crewdson     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I hope you're right Joe, now I understand what he wanted 400ft reels for, I thought he was a film maker.

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Dominique De Bast
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- posted August 23, 2013 04:01 PM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Saddly there is no way to stop him.

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Clinton Hunt
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- posted August 23, 2013 10:30 PM      Profile for Clinton Hunt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If it wasn't fixable then ok, but if it worked then there are plenty of collectors!
I own one of these projectors.....glad I do as they are excellent [Smile]

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Dominique De Bast
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- posted October 26, 2013 05:40 PM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Another example of a converted 9,5 projector in a lamp http://www.lumieredelatelier.com/article-cretaion-lampe-recup-recyclage-ancien-projecteur-pathe-baby-vintage-esprit-industriel-et-atelier-111593272.html The responsible for this says the projector was not in good state. I am still not convicted it'a good idea.

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Paul Mason
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- posted January 29, 2014 07:19 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As well as sellers of these projector lamps we have this seller encouraging others to do it! Ebay Kodascope Incidentally this seller thinks he has a Kodascope Model D when its marked Model C.

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Dino Everette
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- posted January 30, 2014 01:48 AM      Profile for Dino Everette     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don;t see the problem...My cousin gave me an original Lumiere Cinematographe from the 1890's..The wood was so beautiful I thought it was being wasted on a silly little box that doesn't have a use anymore so I made it into a gorgeous end table...Its really better off, cuz now people use it..They set their mugs and cups on it...I can even put a projector lamp on it so that all those "purists" out there will be happy. [Wink]

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Lee Mannering
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- posted January 30, 2014 03:32 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And not to forget the Group 9-5 film ‘Lights out and the stars appear’ ends with a Pathe Baby projector sprayed silver sat in the middle of the garden in all weathers. [Eek!]

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Paul Mason
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- posted January 30, 2014 09:53 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If being a purist means preferring old projectors unconverted and original then I plead guilty. Clearly owners are free to do anything they like to rare projectors but I think any changes or improvements should be reversible without serious damage for the sake of future generations.

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Dino Everette
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- posted January 30, 2014 11:35 PM      Profile for Dino Everette     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To clarify Paul I was of course joking, I think it is pretty horrible when folks destroy perfectly good projectors...I would also be a purist

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Paul Mason
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- posted January 31, 2014 03:00 AM      Profile for Paul Mason     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dino, Many thanks. I was expecting someone else to say that they had converted an Edison Kinetoscope into a disco light machine! Hey maybe I'm on to something here. [Big Grin]

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