posted September 26, 2003 05:23 AM
Just to change the topic away from doom and gloom, I wondered what your views are on which company made the most consistently good quality prints of black and white films? I have heard it said that DCR (whoever they were) are the best. For that matter are there any to avoid??
From: Neath, South Wales, UK
Registered: Jun 2003
posted September 26, 2003 01:29 PM
Tony, DCR was operated by Dave West on the Isle of Wight. He released many b/w features and shorts. DCR titles were noted for their (usually) excellent soundtracks. Mr. West gave up the business a few years ago due to failing health. Classic Home Cinema are re-releasing some of the DCR titles. Mal
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posted September 26, 2003 03:18 PM
The very best Black & White film in my collection is "Goldiggers 0f 1933" from Derann. A beautiful print with razor sharpness and rich contrast. Blackhawk prints were generally excellent and processed with great care by people who loved and respected film. I have a stunning print of a Blackhawk Litle Rascals short called "Hook and Ladder". I also have terrible B&W prints from Derann such as " Calling all Girls", and several washed out L&H prints from Blackhawk. Columbia and Castle B&W prints were usually excellent. The ABC films B&W features that I have are quite good. All the Niles prints I have seen have been awful and I won't touch Niles prints. I still think the best black and white results when it is printed on colour stock (provided the color is balanced correctly) due to the much higher resolution of color film. One nice thing about B&W prints is that there is no worry about fading.
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posted September 27, 2003 06:43 AM
My best B/W prints are from Columbia. They seem to be the most consistant with really good quality B/W. I have also have some very excellent Blackhawk prints, but they were not as consistant. One of my worst B/W prints was from Ken Films - 200 foot sound B/W "Screaming Skull". Nick.
posted June 21, 2018 11:30 AM
I would agree that on a "consistent basis", reel by reel, I would have to tip the hat to Derann, but there are other very good super 8 prints as well. I have that, "High Noon" print as well and it is top notch!
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posted June 21, 2018 12:28 PM
Blackhawk in defense had some clinkers, but 90% were sharp, especially the Std 8 releases - I'll go with CASTLE and DERANN, STEEL VALLEY, DCR, GRIGGS, GLENN PHOTO and T-BIRD - Morecraft also handled many shorts quite nicely - Shorty
From: Fairfield, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2004
posted June 21, 2018 03:36 PM
Shorty's comment about Blackhawk 8mm prints I have to agree. In my experience overall, just about all of my 8mm silent era prints no matter who printed them are very good. I think they were made from materials closer to the camera original, some are truly excellent. I don't have enough experience with all the companies mentioned, but for S-8mm sound digests I am a fan of Columbia's prints.
posted June 21, 2018 03:44 PM
For continuing exellence in b&w prints: DCR and Brakespear in England. Ivy,Columbia Castle and Blackhawk in the US.I will disagree with Shorty on Griggs,Glenn and Tbird. While they did issue a great variety of subjects and many rarities,quality was not always good.
posted July 05, 2018 07:11 PM
This is awesome. I just recently signed on as a member and was reading this thread with the same question in mind. Read right through the conversation without even noticing there was a 15-year pause.
Awaiting delivery on some B&W Castle 200-foot digests. Looking forward to seeing how they look.
posted July 05, 2018 07:51 PM
Hey, Steve. Yep, it’s me. About a hundred years later. Good to “see” you. My new apartment has two adjoining rooms separated with pocket doors, making a great arrangement for film projection. Am interested in B&W films because the faded red material is a bit heartbreaking.
posted July 06, 2018 06:37 AM
Pan, I agree with your disagree with me - Though the GRIGGS, GLENN PHOTO & T-BIRD weren't always superior, one must give them credit for acquiring the most obscure titles, and whatever negs were left, that's really the best we have - Grateful we have anything at all, really - Cheers all, Shorty
posted July 06, 2018 12:04 PM
Shorty,I agree that you agree that I disagree with you! Especially Glenn and Tbird had too too many rarities that you never see today in second hand lists (and vdry few of us have )