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Topic: Japanese animation on super-8?
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Tim Drage
Film Handler
Posts: 32
From: Harrow, London, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted November 05, 2004 10:02 AM
As an animator myself I'm particularly interested in getting hold of cartoons/animated films on S8, there are so many things it'd be great to watch on film. There's certainly no shortage of classic Di$ney stuff at least, though I'm no fan of their recent work!
I'm particularly interested in Japanese animation (AKA Anime or often incorrectly referred to as 'Manga' here in the UK.) A while back I won on ebay a 2-reel episode of the 70's series 'Captain Harlock' which I got very cheap because noone except me has such an obscure combination of interests... and it's in Italian! It seems that my best bet is this kind of thing, as imported + re-dubbed anime TV series have long been popular in europe.
I wonder if anyone knows of any sites with info about super-8 collecting in Japan? I can only imagine that in the 70's and 80's there must have been at least some anime released on super-8. Would be interesting to get some idea what's out there! I'm hoping that at least extracts of some of the best anime movies (e.g. Akira, anything by Studio Ghibli) exist somewhere, but I suppose it depends on the state of super-8 releases in Japan.
I visited last year but didn't think to look for super-8 stuff! Just as well; I bought way too much junk as it was!
Can't remember which company released the S8 "Final Flight of the Osiris"... anyway, it's a shame they didn't choose one of the other 'Animatrix' shorts, I thought that was pretty much the worst one! Never mind...
Anyway, enough rambling from me, please let me know if you have any info/thoughts on the above!
-------------------- Tim Drage Animator & Director Spite Your Face Productions http://www.spiteyourface.com
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God
Posts: 2392
From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted November 05, 2004 10:18 AM
Hey Tim, I have worked in animation for a while (Ninja Turtles for IDDH and Robocop for Marvel) so I understand your interest... My wife is crazy about Totoro and our house is full of plush Totoro toys (even the very big one sold at Ghibli). I travel regularly to Japan but never ever saw a single 'local' reel of super 8 there. Saw a shop full of Elmo Projectors of all sorts in Kyoto, though, with a bunch of cutdowns from Universal and Marketing but, that was it... You should check Ebay France from time to time, as 200ft reels of "Goldorak" (Cold Drake/UFO Robot Grendizer) are often being auctionned. Another good source would be to check the website of one of your members in Germany, Andreas, click here .
The Animatrix short was released by Derann, and the people who run the company read this forum.
We're also having a conversation about Wallace and Gromit, if you follow that link .
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Maurizio Di Cintio
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 977
From: Ortona, Italy
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted November 06, 2004 08:33 AM
Hello, Tim
Here in Italy several S/8 firms released prints of "Ufo Robot Grendizer" (locally known as "Atlas Ufo Robot"), Captain Harlock, Jeeg Robot and Mazinger Z. A.V.O. Film, based in Milan, releasd episodes of all four, often full-length TV episode with minor abridgments, each cut-down into three 200 footer parts. Quality is variable: somtimes they are OK, but more often than not, there's some light fade to red, dirrty masters and/or excess contrast; also the soundtrack is rather inconsistent quality wise. Other labels involved were "Techno Film", "Ersa" and "Cineriduzione Ariete".
I'd gladly trade one of my 200 footers of Grendizer with and English speaking version of the same character, maybe with start or end credits song. Interested? Let me know. Ciao!
-------------------- Maurizio
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Tim Drage
Film Handler
Posts: 32
From: Harrow, London, UK
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted November 15, 2004 12:25 PM
quote: Is "The Battle Of Planet" featured with 5 bird-like outfitted heroes (Gatchman?!) If so in Italy we had them.
Yeah, that's the one... "Science Ninja Team Gatchaman"! Also known as all sorts of different names in many different edits + dubs!
quote: My favourite USA-Japan serial was "Star Blazers"; but if you're interested in Cap. Harlock, you may end up discovering that some
Yeah, Yamato and Harlock are both based on the Manga of Leije Matsumoto, great stuff! Really melodramatic. Pretty much all his series are kind of alternate versions of the same characters, Harlock appears in most of them... there's a wild west harlock, "Galaxy Express 999" with trains in space... "Archadia of my Youth" which features his ancestor in WWII and his future self in space... Cool stuff, really 70's style and epic and crazy stories, great!
His film 'The Cockpit', avaliable on video here in the UK, is a bit different, a really good anthology of shorts set in WWII, some poignent stuff and interesting to see a Japanese perspective on that period of history.
-------------------- Tim Drage Animator & Director Spite Your Face Productions http://www.spiteyourface.com
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