Adam Wilkins
Junior Posts: 17
From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Registered: May 2008
posted June 07, 2008 10:12 PM
Hi:)
My recent registration/application at 8mm Forum has just been approved. I am now an authorised member of the community!
2008 has brought me a new interest in super 8 film. I have purchased a camera (canon 1014xl-s), projector (elmo st-800 m/o) and i am also waiting on a Wurker splicer (need to order some tabs..)
I plan to film, edit and project the original way..but i am not excluding telecine.. i need a new job for this expensive hobby!
i have also purchased a Single 8 camera (Fujica Z800) and am looking forward to using the rewind function for dreamy double exposures.
I have found this forum to have the best information for editing, cleaning, maintenance etc. of course there is a great deal of info on print films, but this is not the path i am taking..the only films i own are two digest? versions of ALIEN and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND. both with vinegar syndrome. i bought them to test out the sound of my projector..
posted June 07, 2008 10:15 PM
Good to have ya, though I am quite baffled to hear that these two prints of yours have vinegar syndrome, as they are not known for being so.
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Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
posted June 07, 2008 10:35 PM
I have a polyester based print that had a distinct vinegar odor, and after I had it for a week and noticed this I went into a minor panic about it (it was something I'd been looking for a couple of years by then...)
One day I put it to the test and tried to cement splice a snip off one tail: wouldn't take, therefore non-acetate. (I'm pretty handy with a cement splicer; they always take when they are acetate.)
No acetate=no acetic acid=no VS.
Nearly as I can figure it's some funky cleaner that was applied along the way. 4 years down the road the print is still fine.
Welcome Adam! A lot of us here are filmmakers and collectors too. The problem with being both is when I show one of mine next to a Hollywood release than cost millions and was made by professionals it's kind of hard to stack up!
What does make them great is they tell your stories in your way. A thousand filmmakers around the world are willing to make a movie about WW2 or rehash some old TV series, but only I can (or will) make a film about my son growing up.
I find expense-wise as long as I don't go overboard it's pretty minor money compared to all the other expenses that come naturally. It's great therapy as well...
-------------------- All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...
Adam Wilkins
Junior Posts: 17
From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Registered: May 2008
posted June 08, 2008 01:56 AM
thank you all for the warm welcome.
perhaps my idea of 'vinegar syndrome' is wrong..? the two films i own have a RED colour. i just smelt them and it was quite sweet rather than vinegary...perhaps i am mad haha
posted June 08, 2008 03:43 AM
Welcome on board Adam. I echo David sentiments above, but I am not mad - now, as for the rest of the world - that's a different question?
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Posts: 873
From: Southern England
Registered: Apr 2008
posted June 08, 2008 05:16 PM
Has anyone got the real info on 'vinegar syndrome'? It's something that has been talked about a lot since I got back into the hobby a year or so ago. Is it directly related to prints going pink?
Posts: 723
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
Registered: Jul 2006
posted June 09, 2008 03:48 AM
Hello Adam Im over the "ditch" in NZ, here are alot of good guys on the forum and it is a good place to get help of anything cine and you have GOT TO BE MAD TO BE IN THE MOVIE BUSINESS! Patrick
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