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Mark Norton
Master Film Handler

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From: Hampton Hill, Middlesex, U.K.
Registered: Feb 2004

posted July 09, 2008 06:12 AM

Noticed that Wittner now have new stock of Kodachrome 40 and Cineva 50D in Super 8 cartridges. I know that Cineva was not designed as a motion picture film hence the past film transport problems in the Super 8 cartridge, this was the reason I bought some cheap Fujica cameras and started shooting Cineva in the Single 8 cartridge. I would like to use Cineva in my Super 8 cameras but have the problems been sorted?
Wittner do the very convenient pre-paid mailers, but I suspect they are probably sending the Ceneva to Rero8 and the new K40 to Dwaynes, no problems just a long wait.

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Adam Wilkins
Junior
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Registered: May 2008

posted July 09, 2008 06:56 AM

Mark, whats the Cineva like in Single 8? im in the middle of my first cartridge of fujichrome r200n...

sorry cant answer your question regarding the jittery cartridge..but i have read a little about the problems on filmshooting.com and cinematography.com Forums.

cheers

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Graham Sinden
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Kent, UK
Registered: Aug 2005

posted July 09, 2008 07:09 AM

New stock of Kodachrome 40 [Eek!]

who made em? and how?

Graham S

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Mark Norton
Master Film Handler

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From: Hampton Hill, Middlesex, U.K.
Registered: Feb 2004

posted July 09, 2008 07:27 AM

Adam, I have shot around a dozen Cineva 50D in single 8 cartridges and have had no problems. Fine grain, really strong bright colours and good low light shots mainly using a Fuji P2. Plus it can be sound-striped unlike Kodak 64T /100D I have used which it all fell off. The only downside is you only get 40ft inside a cartridge.
Nothing wrong with Fujichrome 25R , [it's just not as colour saturated as the Ceneva] and you can have it sent back soundstiped from Retro8. I used 3 carts of it and a 200N for filming my holiday last year and it has that real 70's cine look to it which I liked

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Mark Norton
Master Film Handler

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From: Hampton Hill, Middlesex, U.K.
Registered: Feb 2004

posted July 09, 2008 03:33 PM

Adam, just had another look at the R200N I shot last year. It's grainy but that is due to the high speed. At its best with the indoors shots with good colour balance , out doors shots I took in low light look without a filter looked quite blue.

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 09, 2008 05:15 PM

Mark, You have really inspired me to get my ZXM300 out to shoot some Fuji Single 8. I have an attachment for this camera to mount the Kowa 8Z lens on the front and I did all my filming this way back in the late 80's/90's. Scope looks really good on the Single 8 format as the film is rock steady with the design of film cart.
The thought of getting it back striped as well is a great plus.
What stock do you recommend for general use? and where is the best place to buy from here in the UK?

Kev.

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GS1200 Xenon with Elmo 1.0...great combo along with a 16-CL Xenon for that super bright white light.

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Yanis Tzortzis
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Greece
Registered: Aug 2005

posted July 09, 2008 06:14 PM

With all due respect guys,and don't wanna play smart,but it's actually called CINEVIA,and here's a site-and a bit more info:
http://www.englisch.film-super8.de/index.html?7_filmmaterial/cv-beschr.html
..and my eternal question:when will we see this stock in the UK???

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Yannis

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Adam Wilkins
Junior
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Registered: May 2008

posted July 09, 2008 10:39 PM

i am using the Fujica Z800. only 160º Shutter. I was shooting in the forrest/snow under low light so i wonder if this will come with a blue tinge...i bought my film from Retro8 prepaid processing and soundstriping. looking forward to sound and visual cut ups in the future! still waiting on a stereo splicer and viewer..

Apparently 'smallformat' magazine will have a review/test on the Wittnerchrome V50D (Fuji Velvia) in issue #4 - 2008. Maybe this is already out? their website does not seem to be working at the moment.

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James E. Stubbs
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 104
From: Portland, OR
Registered: Apr 2007

posted July 10, 2008 12:23 AM

All the S8 V fiddy D is in Kodapacks. Most folks on this side of the pond report good transport with fresh batteries and a properly adjusted clutch. Some jam up about halfway through though mostly due to the aforementioned clutch tensioning issue. They can often be freed up by hand.
Cheers,

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James E. Stubbs
Consultant, Vagabond, Traveler.

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Joerg Niggemann
Expert Film Handler

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From: Germany
Registered: May 2006

posted July 10, 2008 07:50 AM

Hi,

Fuji Velvia in Kodak S8 cartridges is available at Wittner Cinetec as "Wittner Chrome V50D".

"Cinevia" is a brand of GK Film (Gottfried Klose). They are still working on their completely new designed S8 cartridge which also contains Fuji Velvia stock. A picture of the new cartridge can be found here under the section Products --> Super8.

Cinevia in Kodak cartridge is sold out.

Joerg

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Mark Norton
Master Film Handler

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From: Hampton Hill, Middlesex, U.K.
Registered: Feb 2004

posted July 10, 2008 02:02 PM

Sounds like a nice bit of single 8 kit Kev. My favorite is the cinevia 50D even though the 40 ft goes a bit quick, I would recommend buying a cartridge you wont be disappointed with the results. Wittner take paypal so ordering from them is easy, Frank in the netherlands ( super 8 reversal lab) used to have stock, but I'm not sure if he still carries it, excellent service. So that leaves Retro8 in Japan, havn't tried america.

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