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Topic: Bambi (Derann) - Advice needed
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Miguel Gimenez
Film Handler
Posts: 52
From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 22, 2010 01:41 PM
I have check for an ID until movie title and more, I have not seen any writen letters along with the perforations or in other place, and only some words in the frames telling that it is Bambi, Reel 1 and so on. Also seen the "Sync" word and nothing more.
Well, there is a frame with the three basic colors (red-green-blue, in stripes), but it doesn't seem any code.
Gary has answered me, and tells that it is the first Derann Disney film with pink cast he knows about and ask me to send back the film to him "for inspection".
I'll send back it to him ASAP.
I have noticed a "strange" thing. Comparing to Snow White and Pinocchio which were bought around 1994-1996, I don't remember correctly, they have the sound stripes in a brown color and the stripe has bump/volume. The Bambi film, has the stripes in black and no perceptible volume at all.
Additionally, the color of the film itslef (just at the beginning of the film, so without any image), in the SW and Pinocchio has a yellowish tone, meanwhile the stock of Bambi, is more gray/little bluish tone. So they seem for my inexperience, different stock. This is surprising considering that Derann released Bambi in the same years. Of course that could be normal if it is a more recent re-release (as Gian mentioned), I don't know. I have done a photo of the two films stripes to compare, that I'll post.
Winbert, I can assure you that in my case the colors are really pink ![[Wink]](wink.gif) , but I'll try to do something about the photo.
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Miguel Gimenez
Film Handler
Posts: 52
From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted February 22, 2010 03:44 PM
Thanks, they do help. Are they scanned with a flatbed scanner? Really these are the colours I should see. I see that it has also the "brown" sound stripes. Is this a copy of 1994?
BTW, yes, the sound in these black stripes is not so good as with the "brown" sound ones used in , for example, Pinocchio.
I have captured also the first frames of each reel, the same frames you show, and in my copy they are totally pink, all three...
Tomorrow morning I'll try to send back my copy to Gary.
Winbert: the color stripes are only in 1 frame, and with the naked eye they seem normal, not pink at all.
About the volume of the sound stripes, I meant that the brown ones seems to be "painted" on the film, so you can see that it has some "relief","bump" or "volume" over the film, meanwhile the black ones seems flat. I realize that I have not choosen the correct word ("volume") to express that.
And at side of this, yes, the black ones (Bambi) does not sound as good as the others...
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Miguel Gimenez
Film Handler
Posts: 52
From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted March 31, 2010 02:30 AM
Sorry for the long silence. I have been very busy lately.
Well, when Gary received and saw it he answered that they "acknowledge that the copy is not perfect" (a very diplomatic answer, if you ask me).
Anyway as it was the last copy he offered a full refund or to buy it for 150 pounds. As the price seemed a bit high and anyway I was not going to be happy with the pink copy, I choose the full refund.
In the next month listing I saw it listed as A quality, slight (!) pink cast, for 99 pounds. Now it disappeared. I hope the buyer is not angry because of the description...
Anyway, for me it is solved and Gary was so kind to refund me also the shipping, although I did not recover it because of the (high!) fees of the bank who did the exchange of divise...
So it seems the end of the story for Bambi, until I find a good second hand copy. Thank you a lot for all your help.
EDIT: I forgot it, I asked Gary why he thought it was so pink, and he answered me just that "The answer is I do not know, although this was one of the very last Disney films to be printed"
(I hope Gary will not get angry because publishing his answer here...)
Now I have a very annoying problem with another purchase, but I am going to open a new topic to keep things separate.
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