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Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 15, 2011, 04:26 AM:

Would anyone happen to have the service manual for the Eumig Mark 610d projector? I have been looking around but can not seem to locate anything. Thanks.

Posted by frank arnstein (Member # 330) on October 15, 2011, 06:36 PM:

Hi
Do u mean owners manual or a workshop repair manual?

dogtor frankarnstein [Cool]

[ May 27, 2015, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: frank arnstein ]

Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 15, 2011, 08:58 PM:

Thanks for responding but I am looking for the service manual and not the owners manual. Thanks again

Posted by frank arnstein (Member # 330) on October 16, 2011, 08:36 PM:

If you contact Janice Glesser, she may be able to help you.

dogtor [Razz]

[ May 27, 2015, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: frank arnstein ]

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 16, 2011, 09:17 PM:

Hello Joseph,

I have the service manual for the Eumig 610D, I'll scan it and send you a PDF. I probably can do it later this week.

Let me know if this will work for you.

Jon

Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 17, 2011, 02:56 AM:

Thanks Jon, this is exactly what I am looking for!!!

And thanks to Frank too for responding with his kind offer but that was not what I was looking for. BTW "Ersatzteil Katalog" is German for a parts catalog.

Thanks again

[ October 17, 2011, 09:10 AM: Message edited by: Joseph Banfield ]

Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 22, 2011, 03:21 PM:

Jon, are still there because I have not heard anything from you?

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 22, 2011, 05:59 PM:

Hello Joseph,

Yes I am still here. I did say I needed to scan it first and that I would try to do it later in the week.

Remember? [Wink]

I am doing that now and the manual will be on its way to you soon.

Regards,

Jon

[ October 24, 2011, 02:57 AM: Message edited by: Jon Addams ]

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 23, 2011, 09:29 PM:

To Joseph Banfield and Martin Jones

Hi guys,

I finished scanning the service manual for the Eumig 610D but I have not been able to send it by email, the file is close to 30MB long and hotmail doesn't allow any attachment bigger than 10MB.

Any ideas how I can get this to you by email?

Jon

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on October 24, 2011, 12:15 AM:

Jon,

Google as an option for you to open "documents account". You can register with any email you have already.

With this "document" you can upload any files at bigger size (picture, video, power point, etc) and let other to download it.

Just don't forget to mark it as "share" when you have uploaded it.

cheers,

Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 24, 2011, 04:04 AM:

Hi Jon,

Just go here and upload the file: http://sharesend.com/ It is totally free and you don't have to sign up for anything. It is very easy to use too. You can enter the email recipients directly or just copy the link to the file back here at this forum and everyone can access it.

Thanks again for scanning this!

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 24, 2011, 09:24 AM:

Thank you to Winbert and Joseph for their tips.

The manual has been sent to those that asked for it, enjoy.

Jon

Posted by Joseph Banfield (Member # 2082) on October 24, 2011, 11:27 AM:

Thanks Jon and what a super fantastic job you did scanning that service manual. Just perfect in every respect! I am very grateful to you and thanks again!!!

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 24, 2011, 11:41 AM:

Joseph,

The manual was free but one of these days I'll send you a bill at US$100.00 make that US$175.00 (with the value of a dollar today) per hour for the scanning job [Big Grin]

Enjoy,

Jon

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on October 24, 2011, 11:48 AM:

Hey Jon,

Have you considered uploading the service manual to the manuals section in this 'site?

Then everybody benefits.

Posted by Martin Jones (Member # 1163) on October 24, 2011, 01:09 PM:

Jon,
My thanks also! I did have difficulties Downloading from the site; the .PDF wouldn't open and I got a "corrupted file" message. I guessed, correctly, that the browser (Opera) I was using was the problem, so I copied the "Link Address" into Mozilla Firefox and OPENED the file. Once I was sure it was OK, I then Saved it as a .PDF to my Documents Folder.
Very informative manual, thanks again!

Martin

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 24, 2011, 01:43 PM:

quote:
Hey Jon,

Have you considered uploading the service manual to the manuals section in this 'site?

Then everybody benefits.

Hi Steve,

Yes I have. Shortly after I joined to Forum I started scanning all my manuals back in September 2007 with the idea of having them posted in the manual section.

On December 3, 2007 I submitted the first 11 of the group so they would be available to all members. [Smile]

They were never posted! [Mad]

Regards,

Jon

Posted by James Har (Member # 2789) on October 25, 2011, 04:49 AM:

Please would you send a copy of the service manual for the Eumig 610D to me.

Or, tell me the link, so that I may download it from sharesend.

Yours,
Jim

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 25, 2011, 08:32 AM:

Hello James,

You requested a copy of the manual by email to my regular email address. The link was sent to you yesterday, October 24, 2011 at:

jimjimhar at yahoo dot co dot uk

If you didn''t receive it please check your SPAM folder.

Regards

Jon

Posted by James Har (Member # 2789) on October 25, 2011, 09:14 AM:

Dear Jon,
I have this e-mail:
Hello Jim
The manual has been sent.
Enjoy
Jon
but I cannot find the e-mail with the (link to) manual.
Please, would you resend the manual, or the link. Maybe it got lost in the aether.
Yours,
Jim.

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on October 25, 2011, 10:02 AM:

Jim,

I sent it again, let me know if you received it.

Thank you

Jon

Posted by James Har (Member # 2789) on October 25, 2011, 10:31 AM:

Dear Jon,
I have just recieved the manual. Thank you.
It is marvellous; extremely helpful.
It is a great shame that manufacturers of all products do not include a service manual, when they sell their goods.
I imagine that no owner of an Eumig projectior would have been able to acquire one of these manuals, in the 1970s.

Yours,
Jim.

Posted by Geoff Rogers (Member # 1338) on October 27, 2011, 02:56 PM:

Hello Jon

Please could you send me a copy of the service manual for the Eumig 610D when convenient.

My email is rogersga at btinternet dot com

Thanks
Geoff

Posted by frank arnstein (Member # 330) on October 28, 2011, 01:20 AM:

Hi Jon
If anyone can have a copy, I too wouldn't mind a look.
send by email if you get time.
thanks

dogtor [Cool]

Posted by Trevor Judd (Member # 2868) on December 13, 2011, 05:31 AM:

Me too please for a Service Manual.

I acquired my 610D to attempt to telecine my films as my existing projector had variable(by design)and wildly fluctuating (by accident)speed. I had read various methods of syncronising the film with the video and decided to have a go.

However while checking the theory and optimising the camera setup I found that by simply setting the camera to slow shutter the dark frames disappeared!

Now I would like to ensure the projector is as good as possible.

Cheers
Trevor

Posted by Geoff Rogers (Member # 1338) on February 28, 2012, 02:10 PM:

Did anyone obtain a copy of the service manual for the Eumig Mark 610d. Would appreciate a copy if one's available.

Thanks

Geoff

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on April 29, 2012, 11:22 PM:

I find I'm in need of the Eumig 610D Service manual too. Could you Jon or anyone else who has this manual email me a copy...I would be very greatful.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on April 30, 2012, 04:14 PM:

Bumpity...Bump :-)

Posted by Thor Simpson (Member # 3453) on January 07, 2013, 02:33 PM:

Thank you Jon for the User Manual

Do you or any one else have the Eumig 610D Service/Repair Manual.

Its about 64 pages.

Thanks in advance

Thor

[ January 07, 2013, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: Thor Simpson ]

Posted by Mieko Nilsson (Member # 3728) on July 03, 2013, 05:55 PM:

My 610d has problems when fast reversing.....

If someone still have the service manual, that would be great, I'm thinking something needs lubrication.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on July 03, 2013, 06:18 PM:

Mieko, I have it...PM me with your email address.

Posted by Kevin Corcoran (Member # 4532) on November 19, 2014, 01:45 PM:

Hi! Like others I've been searching for an Eumig 610D projector Service Manual and ended up at this thread. Can anyone point me to one? Thanks!

Posted by Francesco Di Stefano (Member # 4720) on March 06, 2015, 03:04 AM:

Hi,can I have service manual for Eumig mark 610D? I've try to search this on web but is very difficult to find it. Sorry for my English. My mail is: fds290 at gmail dot com
Thanks you so much

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on March 06, 2015, 11:42 AM:

Francesco ... I emailed you the service manual. Good luck on your repairs.

Posted by Jeff Popper (Member # 4870) on May 27, 2015, 06:04 PM:

Hi there.

I would also love a copy of the service manual, as have made a bit of a mess converting one of my 2 mark610d projectors to a telecine machine. :-)

(Incidentally, I am/was getting really good results using the projector with shutter blades removed, running at 3fps and using the GetDups plugin for AVIsynth in Virtualdub to get the individual 18 frames per second back. I'd used an LED light and a cut up piece of white chopping board plastic to provide the filtered light, and have attached as standard DSLR Nikon lens to the front of the projector instead of its standard lens. This focussed the image directly on the sensor of the Nikon DSLR with lens removed.)

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on May 27, 2015, 08:35 PM:

PM me your email address Jeff.

Posted by Jeff Popper (Member # 4870) on May 30, 2015, 09:23 AM:

Thanks Janice. After taking a read , I realized I'd made too big a mess of the projector so jumped on ebay and purchased another one! Only $20 and this one is in absolutely as new condition inside and out.

Now to dremel out the shutter blade and I will be good to go with a far better telecine machine. ;-)

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on May 30, 2015, 09:52 AM:

Great Jeff! Once you get your new telecine setup going. Please post some details and perhaps a video of a transfer. It's always helpful to see how others are doing successful telecine. I'm always interested [Smile]

Posted by Jeff Popper (Member # 4870) on May 31, 2015, 06:43 AM:

Will do. Did not make it to my friends with the dremel this weekend but have othereise set up the projector. I don't think videos can be uploaded to this forum can they? Would I need to set up a youtube account and post a link?

Posted by Serhiy Pankiv (Member # 5104) on November 04, 2015, 12:06 PM:

Hi. I just recently acquired Eumig 610d and also am looking for the service manual for this projector. Would like to modify it for the same set up as Jeff (remove shutter blades, shoot video with DSLR/macro lens at 3fps, select frames with GetDups).

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on November 04, 2015, 01:20 PM:

Hi Serhiy ... PM me your email address. I'll send you a copy of the Repair Manual.

Posted by Serhiy Pankiv (Member # 5104) on November 05, 2015, 01:18 PM:

Hi Janice. My email is serhiyp at hotmail dot com. Thank you!

Posted by Erwin Seppelfeld (Member # 5254) on February 14, 2016, 06:25 AM:

Hi all!
I fear I'm late, but hopefully not too late! But I just found this forum right now!
I'm going to get a Bolex 18-3 Duo and, as I've heard, it is very similar to the Eumig Mark 610D. At least I hope I will get some hints for cleaning or repairing it. So I would like to have the service- and repair manual too!
If I got it right, Janice is always so kind and will send it (I will leave my email address to her).
Primary I want to check my old N8 and S8 films coz my old projector (brand Ricoh) didn't work any longer.
But the longer I read here and in others places the more I could imagine to experiment with telecine. Unfortunately I read here (especially in posts of Janice) the it should be a projector with variable speed.
As far as I can see 4 problems have to be solved:
1. Controling the motor speed
2. Syncronizing the motor to the cam and
3. a light source variable and with low heat emission.
4. optical adaption of cam to film plane
I already saw many solutions with different quality and costs.Some with an excellent description others with emphasis more on results only.
If anyone has 'hard' data about one of these 4 points or at least a link to those data, I would be glad to get it.
'Hard data' means to me either some construction details (mechanically) or schematics, or even a program.

Thanks in advance!

[ February 14, 2016, 07:36 AM: Message edited by: Erwin Seppelfeld ]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on February 14, 2016, 09:26 AM:

Hello and welcome to the forum Erwin! Its never too late to talk film or equipment here BTW [Wink]

)

As for your projector, as it most resembles a Eumig model, no doubt Janice is best qualified to tell you how to get the very best results from it using it for telecine transfer purposes.

I don't really get involved in any of that as I like actually using these projectors just to show films on.
What I can say though, is technically a projector that offers 25fps facility and has a two bladed shutter, here in the UK where we use the PAL system,this gives the very best results obtainable for this type of work.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on February 14, 2016, 12:35 PM:

Welcome Erwin! I have emailed you a copy of the repair manual. As far as DIY telecine using the 610D... I have not used this projector for transfers. However... I know with some modifications others have converted it to do frame-by-frame transfers and others have found a way to variably adjust the speed for realtime transfers.

There is no single road map (hard data) to converting projectors to do film transfers. A lot depends on accumulating knowledge from what others have done and applying that knowledge with your skills, equipment, and expectations.

Take a look at this thread which includes a video of John Yapps method. I think it's pretty effective and doesn't require a lot of engineering [Smile]

http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=009763

Here's a detailed description of a realtime telecine conversion using a Eumig Mark 8. It may be of some help in designing your own system.

http://www.cine2digits.co.uk/

Here's a frame-by-frame conversion:

http://oysteineliassen.blogspot.com/2012/09/diy-synced-telecine-with-eumig-mark.html

Here a video using a Eumig 607D for frame by frame capture:

https://youtu.be/pZ-2AjhcA1s?list=PL_iVHd8ghhT6HSPxAKn-6cmy80s6SxTBs

Posted by Jeff Popper (Member # 4870) on February 14, 2016, 07:50 PM:

Hi Irwin,

The method I used for Telecine with a Eumig 610d was as follows:

1. used a dremel to remove the 3 shutter blades in the projector
2. attached the standard lens from my nikon d3100 to the front of the projector (by cutting a hole in a plastic rear lens cap, glueing that onto the front of the projector where a small lens typically sits
3. replacing the bulb with an MR16 LED light so it doesnt get hot , and putting a piece of a white chopping board in front of the globe to difuse the light
4. projecting directly onto the exposed DSLR sensor (projector--> DSLR lens stuck on the front of projector-->DSLR sensor about 5cm away) running at 6FPS
5. recorded output fed into VirtualDub using the GetDups plug-in for AVISynth to extract the unique 18 frames per second, with the transition frames discarded by the software.

Similar to Janice's links except for step 5. No need for a sync pulse to distinguish frames if you use the GetDups plugin.

results are quite good, but I have found that alot of the family films we have were quite poorly focussed when originally shot, which makes it hard to get a super sharp image.

regards,

Jeff

Posted by Ivo Krepelka (Member # 6916) on March 28, 2019, 08:00 AM:

Hi everyone,

I am looking for Eumig Mark 610D workshop/service manual (I do have a user manual...). I want to modify the projector for the film digitizing and I thought that it would be a good thing to first dismount everything and clean and that dismounting and reassembly will be easier with the service manual... (No need to take so many photos and notes.... [Smile]

). I would appreciate if you could put a .pdf somewhere (dropbox etc....) and email me a link.

Many thanks,
Best regards,
Ivo

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on March 28, 2019, 09:54 AM:

Welcome Evo! As I mentioned above...I have the manual. Please PM me stating the manual you are requesting along with your email address.

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