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Brannon Carty
Film Handler

Posts: 29
From: North Carolina
Registered: May 2011

posted November 17, 2011 09:54 PM

Hi,

I just got myself Jaws on Super 8mm. However, I want to transfer it to DVD as this version is very rare. Do any of you recommend a good method on doing so? Telecine, etc? Can any of you do it? I am looking a for a rather good quality transfer.

Thanks,
Brannon

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frank arnstein
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From: Gold Coast. Australia
Registered: Jan 2005

posted November 18, 2011 01:33 AM

Hi ,
Not sure how legal it is to do this but others here may know more. [Frown]

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted November 18, 2011 02:07 AM

I presume that you must have a VERY special reason to transfer your
PARTICULAR print to DVD? Why not just go out and buy the DVD? It would be both easier and cheaper.

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John Davis
Master Film Handler

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From: Dunfermline, Fife, UK
Registered: Jun 2008

posted November 18, 2011 04:46 AM

I think in legal terms it would be acceptable to copy the film onto a different medium for your own enjoyment; a bit like converting a vinyl record record for use on an mp3 player. But if you then sell copies I think you would be in the wrong.
I'm often asked to copy commercial VHS tapes onto DVD and almost always there is a readily available official DVD made using source material better than a VHS tape so I point the enquiry to a online site like Amazon

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Brannon Carty
Film Handler

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From: North Carolina
Registered: May 2011

posted November 18, 2011 06:42 AM

The reason I want to preserve it is because it has a scene that is completely unfiltered (The scene where the girl goes into the water at night) unlike every other home video version. It shows a lot more of her body from the Sharks POV, and I just love seeing vintage things preserved such as what I did with a lot of LP records last month. And this is STRICTLY for private use :-) If I could, I would get an 8mm projector and a nice fancy screen, then do a telecine of it myself but I honestly can't because last time I used a projector, I ripped some film, ehhh I'm not too experience yet. [Razz]

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Chris Fries
Master Film Handler

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From: Ohio, US
Registered: Aug 2011

posted November 18, 2011 08:35 AM

Brannon,

I have been transferring my super 8 film onto video for years.

Here is the 2x400 "JAWS"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4EIbiRWUM

I also have the 200' version but the Chrissie Watkins and Alex Kintner attacks are missing. I knew that someone had cut that footage out even before I bought it from my library but I wanted it anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdrY2ZeuuRo&feature=watch_response

I was not the first to put this film on Youtube. EddieMc1 posted the 200' silent version last December. They also talk about the opening scene being shot "day for night" and showing more than the final cut did. But, to reduce the roll on video, they ran it a 18 fps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aD7aAe9X4M&feature=related

My transfers are done by shooting the film on my video camera. The video line out on the camera is plugged into an ION VIDEO 2 PC device that records the film directly onto my computer via USB. The sound is also direct using the RCA line out on the projector. The sound line also goes into the converter. To minimize flicker, I set the shutter speed on my JVC mini-cassette DV to 1/60.

Now, if you have a digital camera, I think you can just record the film then transfer the file to your PC. If you do, make sure you have a camera that has adjustable shutter speed.

I have not put any transfers on DVD, just Youtube. It would be easy to do, though. After I trim the heads and tails in Movie Maker and save the files, I would use the Windows DVD maker to put them on disc.

They my not be perfect telecines (can't really afford that) but I think they work.

Hope this helps.

[ November 20, 2011, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: Chris Fries ]

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Martin Jones
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Thetford , Norfolk,England
Registered: May 2008

posted November 18, 2011 09:20 AM

Brannon said.....

"It shows a lot more of her body from the Sharks POV, and I just love seeing vintage things preserved......"

Just how ANCIENT was this girl, then?

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 18, 2011 10:01 AM

There are so many threads lately about how to make good transfer.

I have posted not too long ago about a good way of home made transfer especially if you already have a good hi-end camera.

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I just found this on vimeo, someone is making innovation by using LED light to transfer film.

http://vimeo.com/20950590

He shows step by step to modify the projector giving the possibility for laymen to understand what he is doing.

The result is quite impressive, no flicker and color does not look to change. Here are two example he has done:

http://vimeo.com/20900718
http://vimeo.com/20871186

This would be the most economical way to do transfer (if you have already a DSLR camera of course).

cheers

Good luck,

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Barry Fritz
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Burnsville, MN, USA
Registered: Dec 2009

posted November 18, 2011 11:06 AM

Is cost a consideration? There are many companies that do transfers and the results will be much better than you could produce by doing it yourself.

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Thomas Dafnides
Expert Film Handler

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From: St. Louis, Missouri USA
Registered: Dec 2009

posted November 18, 2011 08:05 PM

Around 1980-81, Kodak introduced a portable super 8 flying spot scanner for home use. If this were updated , it could breathe new life into super 8. This was a single unit that you loaded your film into and output video to a vcr.

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 19, 2011 03:41 AM

Whilst it's not legal to make a copy of any commercial release, even for private use, no one is going to know unless you stick it on YouTube but I've made enough warnings about that in the past.

I do a lot of cine transfers for people but I think you'll find that anyone that does this sort of thing is going to decline copying a commercial release, however old. It's the sort of thing that could end in a substantial fine. I would suggest getting onto a reputable dealer such as Perry's, Independent 8, Classic Home Cinema and purchasing a decent projector to enjoy the Super 8 print on. There are thousands of copies around so if you damage it, it will be cheap to replace.

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Mal Brake
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Neath, South Wales, UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 19, 2011 08:42 AM

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Brannon said.....

"It shows a lot more of her body from the Sharks POV, and I just love seeing vintage things preserved......"

Just how ANCIENT was this girl, then?

Thanks Martin, You've just put me off my lunch [Wink]

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