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Topic: Studios forcing end of 35mm?
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 11, 2012 02:52 PM
Thats one helluva article Bill,and as Michael said,thats the way it's going regarding film.If Hollywood were run by people like ourselves that have a genuine love of the "slippery stuff,"then there would'nt be a problem,but as the late Michael Carreras of Hammer Films fame said,"they only know how to make deals,not films" and the bottom line is profit.Well for what it's worth,and I'm not a great lover of modern film makers,if my local intends to show digital then they can watch 'em themselves,I refuse to pay to view something I can view at home,more conveniently on my own DVD.The bottom line is CORPORATE GREED and that can only be fed if you're willing to go along with them,and I for one will boycott them,The greed of these people know no bounds and the article shows how they really feel about the medium..... they could'nt care less.
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Graham Ritchie
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From: New Zealand
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posted May 13, 2012 03:55 AM
John I think a lot of people are thinking the same, it cost around $16 for an adult ticket about $11 a child, for a family the hole thing gets expensive. I used to cringe when I was downstairs at what folk were paying. I once asked a lady who was with her young family, did she go to the movies often, she replied, no it was to expensive and added with a smile. Its a pity we have to mortgage the house to go to the movies. Although she was only kidding about the house, she was getting the point across all the same. Times have changed for home entertainment, we can enjoy good digital sound etc, even 3D at home. The cinema industry is living in the past and the expensive switch to digital presentation wont help, as most folk think its a video projector anyway so its not a selling point. I still like going to the movies every so often but not a regular thats for sure.
Graham.
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Oscar Iniesta
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posted May 13, 2012 04:41 AM
A famous spanish cine fan and professional, write about this time ago, and he told us a date (2017, I remember?), due to the plans decided by Buenavista. But I see that things are going faster probably forced by the finantial problems worldwide. I have read the same views about why paying expensive prices for a technology we can have at home (big LED screen or projection one, with Blue Ray and multichannel sound). In my opinion, they don´t have anything new or different to offer. I believe IMAX and monthly superproductions, as the ones released on the 50/60´s where the way to follow, but they insist on that psychotropic 3D experience. Last weeks, a new 35mm print of The Goonies were projected near home. An spanish fan bought explotation rights and ordered the prints. He believes in 35mm classics and cine lovers answer as an alternative way to the recent Hollywwod trash.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted May 13, 2012 06:41 AM
I think you're absolutely right Oscar,and the way things are going if they drop the 3D idea, Hollywood has nothing to offer.I do believe we're witnessing the end of cinema as we know it,because people,myself included,aren't going to pay exorbitant prices to view something that they can view in their own homes for a fraction of the price.I would think that the only ones who are going to be watching "proper film",will be the private owner or collectors like ourselves.It's a bit like history repeating itself, colour television dealt a body blow to the cinema,so they gave us cinemascope and 3D,now it seems they are resurrecting 3D but the novelty is wearing off and the accessability of home projection and huge TVs coupled with unlimited access to streaming TV channels & DVD, what has the cinema got to offer? it seems the experience of watching a film in other folks company will be a thing of the past.
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Allan Broadfield
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From: Bromley, Kent
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posted May 15, 2012 02:05 AM
As an ex projectionist and more lately film technician who has been made redundant due to drastic results of decline in 35mm releasing, the march of digital, at least in the UK, is inevitable. Major labs have been forced to close down, and it is no exaggeration to say that there are many printing machines now languishing in breaking yards. If I want to sound realistic I would say that 35mm has had a damn good run, it has, after all, been in use since the late 1890's, and I remember when I joined the business in 1959 I was advised that it didn't have much longer to go!
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Bryan Chernick
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From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted May 15, 2012 12:38 PM
An interesting prediction in this article "15 Current Technologies A Child Born Today Will Never Use".
quote: Movie Theaters
Pundits have been predicting the death of the movie theater since the first televisions hit the market, but this time, it's really going to happen for a number of reasons. First, with large HD televisions going mainstream and 3D sets becoming more affordable, the average home theater is almost as good as the average multiplex theater. Second, studios and their cable partners have begun releasing some movies for on-demand viewing on the same day they debut in theaters, a trend which is likely to continue.
Finally, the cost of going to a movie theater is so out of control — movie tickets in New York cost around $13 each — that nobody is going to keep paying it. In a world where an on-demand film that's still in theaters costs $7 to rent and one that just left the theater streams for $2.99 from Amazon, who will spend more than $50 for a family of four to go see the same movie surrounded by annoying patrons, dirty seats and overpriced popcorn? Art house theaters that offer specialized films and a sense of community may remain, but the average multiplex will be gone before my son notices it was ever there.
So the only theaters that will survive are the ones that use film.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted May 15, 2012 01:09 PM
Exactly Bryan,these are the days of "belt tightening" what with recessions,I prefer depression,but lets not frighten the horses. I think that the visits to cinemas will be somewhat rarer,and when one sees what is being charged to view a film,i'm afraid the end is nigh.Lets be quite honest about this,the standard of film making nowadays does leave a lot to be desired,what with the ubiquitous "shaky cam" and mumbled dialogue from actors and actresses that have little or no idea of diction,who is going to pay top dollar to sit through what passes for threadbare stotylines and overblown effects.This is all now going to come to a head and the local "flea pit" will go the way of the Music Hall.Hollywood has spoonfed the public this drivel and charged a fortune for it,so Television will undoubtedly win, and the public will be charged privately to watch the drivel in their own homes
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Oscar Iniesta
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From: Madrid
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posted May 15, 2012 04:40 PM
Bryan has said what I tried to do. I know digital projectors are not so common at many homes, but large HD TV screem has been a revolution the last years. Don´t know why, but all the people, young and old, are crazy about thin TVs here in Spain. So, for our small flats and living rooms, that it a BIG screen, and DVD/Blue Rays an easy way to enjoy a movie. Now think on the other option; driving to a Mall (local cinemas closed), paying a high price for a ticket, no employers inside to keep or look for your seat, nobody taking care of projection quality or annoying non polite viewers with their f***ing mobile phones, and, of course, a poor script from 21th century Hollywood.
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