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Alison Sharpin-James
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- posted June 25, 2012 01:19 PM      Profile for Alison Sharpin-James   Email Alison Sharpin-James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi

I have this projector and would like some advice on lamp replacement please. The bulb I have says it's a Hanimex 8v 50 watt p15s, Japan, and I'd be grateful if someone could tell me what is the modern version I should be buying.

Sorry if this sounds like a silly question, however I am trying for the first time to resurrect an old machine to view some old family films.

Many thanks in advance.

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Joerg Wittgen
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- posted June 25, 2012 05:10 PM      Profile for Joerg Wittgen   Email Joerg Wittgen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi
this is not so easy.I think there is not a modern version of this lamp.
my revue 1000 lux projector needs the same lamp.Here's a visual example:
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I would also like to know if i could rebuild the projector to use a modern lamp.
The lamps are available in any case to buy yet, but they are expensive and do not last long.

Here is a link for a retailer in Germany (only for example)im sure you can get this lamp everywhere.

Wittner Kinotechnik 8V-50W P15s

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Barry Fritz
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- posted June 25, 2012 09:07 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I assume you have the model 1000? If so, CXR is what you want. Readily available in USA?

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Alison Sharpin-James
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- posted June 26, 2012 02:44 AM      Profile for Alison Sharpin-James   Email Alison Sharpin-James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi

Many thanks - I have seen plenty of p30s lamps - are these the modern equivalent?

Thanks for your help

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Joerg Wittgen
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- posted June 26, 2012 08:40 PM      Profile for Joerg Wittgen   Email Joerg Wittgen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes,both will work.

for example:

CXL:
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CXR:
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im not sure,but i think the CXL is the older one.but both will fit,so you can get the CXR.

i think,the CXR is avaible in the United States.but im not sure.

I think the lamps too expensive.
the old CXL I find interesting because of the metal reflector.
if you could carefully remove the glass, it might be possible to solder a favorable pin base bulb like the Osram HLX ?
theoretically possible ....

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Alison Sharpin-James
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- posted June 27, 2012 12:57 PM      Profile for Alison Sharpin-James   Email Alison Sharpin-James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Jeorg

Many thanks for your help. I am now looking forward to receiving a replacement bulb and hope everything still works!

Regards

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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- posted June 27, 2012 02:30 PM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello Alison,there was a lamp made specifically to replace the
8v50w, and I'm currently searching through "Movie Maker" to
give you more details as it had the same bayonet type base.
I'll keep you posted.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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- posted June 27, 2012 06:45 PM      Profile for Hugh Thompson Scott   Email Hugh Thompson Scott       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Alison, I've found the correct lamp for your machine,it's the
replacement for the A1/17 which is the lamp you have at present
the number is A1/263 and that is the correct replacement which
you should be able to get from Perry's Movies,Buckingham Films
Independent 8,Classic Home Cinema or Paul Foster Films.

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Alison Sharpin-James
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- posted June 28, 2012 01:25 PM      Profile for Alison Sharpin-James   Email Alison Sharpin-James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Hugh

Very many thanks for your help - most appreciated [Smile]

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Alison Sharpin-James
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- posted June 30, 2012 11:42 AM      Profile for Alison Sharpin-James   Email Alison Sharpin-James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Many thanks for everybody's help - I have put on a new belt, replaced the lamp, and today seen some old family footage from around 30+ years ago - fantastic!

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Steve Flora
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- posted January 29, 2016 11:05 PM      Profile for Steve Flora   Email Steve Flora   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello, late comer to this topic, but with a Sankyo Dualux-1000 Projector in need of a replacement bulb.

I have been reading this thread (and a couple of others) and am I correct in thinking that the CXR A1/17 bulb is still the only direct replacement for the current bulb in this machine?

And, that there is still no LED solution that can replace it directly (without using an external power source)?

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Brian Fretwell
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- posted January 30, 2016 05:32 AM      Profile for Brian Fretwell   Email Brian Fretwell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'd say there will be no direct (without external power supply) LED replacement as most LED lamp units are made to work off 12v and the A1/17 or A1/263 are 8v lamps, so there is no 12v supply from the projector's transformer. You'd need a rectifier and smoothing as well I would imagine if you did try to make one up from individual small LED capsules as used in torches.

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James Wilson
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- posted January 30, 2016 08:44 AM      Profile for James Wilson   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Alison,

In the UK the A1/17 are now so expensive no, one will import them, however I had been using the Ushio CXL/CXR INC 8volt-5oW

I`m sure if you google it you will get a hit. Otherwise do as I have & get yourself a Sankyo 2000H much the same but a better Projector & cheap lamps. Here`s a link to lamps.
http://www.esphotographics.com/product.php/7/a1-17-8-volt-50-watt-lamp-cxr-cxl/5fa40b4bec1b52667ec1803c5f6c4c0a
James.

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Ty Reynolds
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- posted January 30, 2016 10:49 AM      Profile for Ty Reynolds   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Check out Myron Baron's conversion kit at

http://www.dvds2envy.com/

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Barry Fritz
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- posted January 30, 2016 12:21 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with James. Get a projector that uses the newer inexpensive lamps. With all due respect to Myron's nice kit, you can find a Sankyo 2000H for less than what the kit costs.

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Janice Glesser
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- posted January 30, 2016 12:39 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
...and the Sankyo 2000H is an upgrade to the Dualux 1000.

FYI...There is a Dualux 1000H model, but they are hard to find.

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Steve Flora
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- posted January 30, 2016 04:08 PM      Profile for Steve Flora   Email Steve Flora   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank all for your suggestions. For the moment, I have ordered a replacement bulb for the 1000 from a seller in the Netherlands that has turned out somewhat cheaper than anywhere else I have seen. For the longer term, in case I find that I am involved in doing more 8mm conversion work, I will look into getting a Dualux-2000.

For the record, the following are the details for the Dutch retailer:

Van Eck Video Services
Herastraat 43-04
5047 TX Tilburg , Netherlands
Phone number 013 5715148
E-mail shop@van-eck.net
website http://www.van-eck.net

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Barry Fritz
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- posted January 30, 2016 07:01 PM      Profile for Barry Fritz   Email Barry Fritz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Van Eck is well known on this Forum and has a great inventory of parts.

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Myron Baron
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- posted January 31, 2016 02:36 PM      Profile for Myron Baron   Author's Homepage   Email Myron Baron   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just want to show every one how an outside power unit for an LED replacement bulb looks mounted on a Sankyo 1000.

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Steve Flora
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- posted January 31, 2016 03:40 PM      Profile for Steve Flora   Email Steve Flora   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Myron,
Appreciate that shot. Quite as I imagined it, seeing your other input showing your work.

Are you still using a 110-Volt power source? That, of course, adds another item in the mix for down here, would need to run it off a step-down transformer since we are 220.

And what is your current price for one of the adaptor kits?
Regards, Steve.

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Myron Baron
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- posted February 01, 2016 01:25 PM      Profile for Myron Baron   Author's Homepage   Email Myron Baron   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, I get $185.00 USD, and if international, buyer pays for shipping and all taxes, which comes to another 50 or 60 USD. Steve go to http://www.dvds2envy.com and click on the bulb replacemnt tab. Since that video there have been a few improvements, such as a heat sensor installed, in case operator forgets to turn off the LED, the heat sensors opens the circuit and shuts the machine down. Also installed is is a larger on/off lamp. I just finished a 5,000 foot film job, went fantastic, no problems at all.
Thanks for the enquiry
Myron

I also have four brand new still in the box CXL/CXR 8v 50w bulbs for sale, in US only. For use with the Sankyo 1000. I'm asking $90.00 for all 4 bulbs, as I have no use for them with the LED. In the US only will pay shipping.
Myron

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Steve Flora
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Appreciate the info, Myron. Regards, Steve.

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Steve Flora
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- posted April 03, 2016 10:41 PM      Profile for Steve Flora   Email Steve Flora   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello to all who were following this topic. Thought I would pass along a solution I have found to this bulb problem. I have bought a Jetbeam HR25 LED head lamp which fits in the bulb area of the Sankyo projector. It puts out 800 lumins (about the same as a 50 watt bulb) and as added bonuses puts out less heat than the original bulb (better for the film) AND recharges via a USB connection to my PC. All in all a really good solution I find. The headlamp itself (plus postage and including a headstrap) came to less than $70.00 USD. Here is a link for a retailer in the US that sells it
http://www.andrew-amanda.com/catalog/product/jetbeam-hr25/

I have tried it out in the projector and it works fine. Regards.

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Janice Glesser
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- posted April 03, 2016 11:27 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, I'm having a hard time visualizing how you install the LED lamp in the projector? Could you take a picture and post it?

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Steve Flora
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Janice .... would like to, but the forum's photo upload restrictions are frustrating! If you check out the link, you will see that the headlamp itself (which includes the recharageable battery) is in the shape of a letter "T" ... with the vertical portion abbreviated (this is where the headlamp lens is). When you have the lamp out of the headband, you can stand it on its end with the LED lamp facing almost exactly the same light port/gate that the original lamp shines through and onto the film.

Here is another link http://www.batteryjunction.com/jetbeam-hr25-xml2.html, one of the pictures there shows the lamp out of its headband. Steve.

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