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Topic: Dates, etc, relating to early Hammer 8mm releases
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Adrian Winchester
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Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted November 27, 2013 09:39 AM
I'm contributing to an article that Phil Sheard is writing on Hammer releases, that will appear in the next edition of 'Film Collector'. I have good knowledge of Hammer films released after I started collecting in the early 1980s, but if anyone can confidenly answer any of the following specific questions about earlier releases, I'd very grateful for their help:
a) Approximately when did Derann release the 'Evil of Frankenstein' Std 8 feature?
b) Approximately when did the Americom releases of the 'Curse of Frankenstein' and 'Horror of Dracula' - with the accompanying sound on disks - first appear?
c) When did Derann start releasing their series of Super 8 400' and 4 x 400' digests of Hammer films, such as 'Scars of Dracula', 'The Devil Rides Out' etc?
d) I'm sure that the 'Scars of Dracula' Super 8 4 x 400' version was released in b/w as well as colour. Can anyone confirm if the 400' was also released in b/w? I think the Derann 4 x 400' of 'Countess Dracula' may have also been available in b/w as well as colour, so if anyone can confirm b/w versions of this or any other Derann b/w release of a colour Hammer film, that would be helpful.
e) Approximately when did Walton release their versions of 'Twins of Evil' and 'Vampire Circus'?
f) Approximately when did Ken start releasing their 200' silent editions of 'The Revenge of Frankenstein', 'Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed', 'Curse of the Mummy's Tomb', 'Taste the Blood of Dracula', 'One Million Years BC', 'When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth' and 'Moon Vero Two'?
g) 'The Revenge of Frankenstein' and 'Curse of the Mummy's Tomb' were also released by Ken as 200' Super 8 colour silent editions, but a collector once told me that he had sound versions without the usual subtitles of these, which is surprising as there seems to be no official evidence of sound releases other than in Germany. Has anyone come across sound copies of these?
h) Regarding the Ken 200' silent releases, I have compared the Std 8 and Super 8 versions of 'Moon Zero Two' and found that the Std 8 version - as is often the case with such 200' releases - is a bit longer. Does anyone know if that applies to Std 8 versions of any of the other releases? I'm not sure if they were all released on Std 8, so it would be useful to know any that definitely were on Std 8, and whether 'Revenge of Frankenstein' and/or 'Curse of the Mummy's Tomb' were also released as colour Std 8 versions.
The above questions don't cover all the potential content of the article, so please don't think that we will (e.g.) overlook the later full length versions of films such as 'Scars of Dracula' and 'Vampire Circus', as such releases will be included. But if you think of anything so rare that it's even harder to find than the French extracts from 'Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell', please mention it in case we don't know about it!
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Adrian Winchester
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Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted December 09, 2013 04:01 PM
I still have a few loose ends regarding Hammer releases, so if anyone can comment on any of the following, I'd once again be very grateful. You would be contributing to what I'm convinced will be the most comprehensive listing ever of Hammer releases!
a) I know there was a 50' Americom 'Curse of Frankenstein' so I expect there was also a 50' 'Dracula'. Can anyone confirm this. Does anyone know if the 50' versions were only Std 8?
b) I believe the 200' Anericom releases ('Curse' and 'Dracula') were available in colour, on Std/Super 8 as well as b/w. I know there are rare sound versions with sound on stripe but does anyone know if these were both Std and Super and both b/w and col?
c) Can anyone confirm that 'Four Sided Triangle' was a Std (only?) feature? If so, was it full length or 4 x 400'? If it exists, it was presumably Derann?
d) Phil thinks 'Phantom of the Opera' was released full length in b/w Std 8 as well as b/w Super 8. Can anyone confirm the Std 8 release and if so, was there also a Std 8 400' version?
e) Phil also thinks there were Std 8 versiona of the Derann features 'Quatermass 2' and 'X the Unknown' but I've never heard of them. Can anyone confirm if they exist and if so were they full length or 4 x 400?
f) Has anyone ever come across Super 8 trailers to 'Rasputin the Mad Monk' and/or 'Plague of the Zombies'? If so, were they on Thunderbird reels?
g) Does anyone know of any other Hammer trailers, other than 'Horror of Dracula' and 'House of Fright' (i.e. 'Two Faces of Dr Jekyll') that were specifially released on Thunderbird trailer reels and have not been released by anyone else? This only applies to Thunderbird releases, and not releases by LA Films and others, as we are aware of those.
h) Can anyone remind me which of the Dick Barton films was released as a Std 8 4 x 400' and trailer?
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Adrian Winchester
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