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Clinton Hunt
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From: Waharoa,North Island,New Zealand
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posted July 07, 2015 11:17 PM

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Hi all,
I just came across this Standard 8mm sound projector in the Super8 database.
Nice looking projector I think and would sit proudly in anyones collection - wish it was in mine!

Cirse Sound:-

marketed circa 1959
standard 8 mm film
lens: f: 1.4 \ F: ? mm
lamp: 100 W
reel capacity: 120 m
film loading: manual threading
manual unloading: possible
projection: forward, reverse
projection speed: ?
sound: magnetic playback on main sound track
sound mode: mono
amplifier: tube amplifier
amplifier output: ?
frequency response: ?
recording: magnetic recording on main sound track
input terminal: Microphone, Phono
built-in speaker: yes
motor: magnetic motor
power source: ? V AC, 50 Hz
weight: ?
dimensions: ?
made in Italy by Cirse

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Cheers from me in New Zealand :-)

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Timothy Ramzyk
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posted July 08, 2015 01:10 AM

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That is a beautiful little projector, it's such a neat bridge between silent open-face machines and what we imagine most sound machines to look like. I've never even laid eyes on one until now.

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John Hunter
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posted July 14, 2015 08:28 AM

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Hi Clinton. I have one of these projectors, and very nice they are too. The amplifier output is 3 watts, film speeds are 16,& 24fps,fixed. The lamp is 8v 50w, size is 6.5x10.5x18 inches and the weight in case is 37.5lbs. The lens is 20mm f1.3. Lovely steady picture, but lamps are getting expensive @ £22.

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Steve Carter
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posted July 14, 2015 09:01 AM

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That looks like and reminds of the old Astra standard 8 projector I had as a kid, except the Astra had manual rewind, a little arm behind the top reel holder. The Astra was notorious for loosing the loop, and really ate into my paper-round money, the repairer would tell me all was OK, weeks down the line and it would go again, so it went on and on...

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Nick Vermeirsch
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posted July 15, 2015 07:34 AM

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These are indeed very nice projectors! I have at home the Cirse Oregon (silent 8 mm) with the original box and papers. Some weeks ago, I found another 8mm sound projector (also Italian, but not from Cirse) on a flea market, it has in a way some same looks as the Cirse, but the Cirse is more beautiful in my opinion [Wink]

[Wink]

PS I have seen some adds of these projectors (Cirse Sound) on kijiji, e.g. there are a silent Cirse and a Cirse Sound for 120 euros, I think this could be a fair price for both projectors, no?

http://www.kijiji.it/annunci/collezionismo-e-fai-da-te/napoli-annunci-napoli/proiettori-8mm/81395981

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David Roberts
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posted July 15, 2015 01:56 PM

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hello Clinton
I have one of these cirse sound projectors,mine is display only since the transformer has burnt out. ive come across a few of these with burnt out electrics,they are early 1960"s so maybe to be expected.
very nice to look at though!

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Clinton Hunt
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posted July 15, 2015 08:48 PM

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well guys it is great to hear that these beauties are still around whether they actually work or just for display like David has! - but it looks like there aren't many left though - to me it seems projectors went from this look to the moderner looking projector quickly?

Nicks one he found at a fleamarket looks good too - does it work?

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Cheers from me in New Zealand :-)

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Nick Vermeirsch
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posted July 17, 2015 09:06 AM

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I bought it with a turning motor, the lamp works, the sound panel with the "magic eye" (the green liquid in it is lighting on), it only needs a new belt at first sight, which I will replace next week. I was surprised that it powered up anyway, for a machine from 1961, it's always a nice surprise to see [Wink]

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Timothy Kleemann
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posted July 09, 2017 08:27 PM

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Hello all, I'm new to the forum. My father has an old Projector which I believe is an 'Oregon Cirse' A photo is attached. The globe brightness seems very low. Do the glovbs fade over time or are they either working or not working. Does anyone have any clues as to where to source new / replacement globes. I live in Adelaide, South Australia, Any and all comments greatly appreciated.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted July 10, 2017 02:56 AM

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Timothy

Take out the lamp and post us a photo of it, also state any markings on it, such as voltage and wattage.

Lamps do blacken with age, also items such as the mirror, condenser, and the actual lens itself could have accumulated dirt. After all, this projector, made in Italy in 1955, is very old in the tooth!

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Timothy Kleemann
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posted July 13, 2017 05:46 AM

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The globe has written on it "Hanimex Projection Lamp, 15.1500. 8V 50W. PI55 Japan

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Maurice Leakey
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posted July 13, 2017 07:02 AM

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Timothy

This is the CXL lamp, also coded as A1/17. Regrettably they are now obsolete and as such, quite expensive, and you may have to import them.

Here is a link:-

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/A1-17-8v-50w-Ci ne-Projector-Lamp-Bulb-CXR-CXL-/391022805833?hash=item5b0ac68349:m:maCVgKXUF9p3eOgc_snDN9g

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Timothy Kleemann
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posted July 13, 2017 09:10 AM

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Maurice, Thanks for your efforts. Based on your excellent advice, I have sourced one in Australia and ordered it online from what looks like an old school camera service and supply company. Many thanks, Tim

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Clinton Hunt
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posted July 13, 2017 07:54 PM

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You will find that the picture is bright enough if the room is not too bright Timothy.
The best thing is to keep looking out for the lamps or buy "dead" projectors with this type of lamp still there.Back ups are important as the prices will go up :-)

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Will Trenfield
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posted July 14, 2017 03:28 PM

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There are some on eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Cirse-Astro-8mm-Cine-Projector-8mm-Movie-Projector-Made-in-Italy-/382162951327?hash=item58faafdc9f:g:9~0AAOSwY4pZZz5p

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CIRSE-SOUND-8MM-FILM-VINTAGE-PROJECTOR-CASE-SOLD-AS-SEEN-UNTESTED-/222581523043?hash=item33d2e48263:g:SToAAOSwBLlU21zQ

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-OREGON-CIRSE-8mm-Film-Projector-Man-Cave-Collector-Etc-awesome-/222552800112?hash=item33d12e3b70:g:3xkAAOSwAuZX4n3b

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Simon Wyss
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posted March 29, 2018 01:05 AM

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I have one, too, now. Also Schacht-Travenon 20-1.3. Will restore it and maybe try to make it switchable COMMAG/COMOPT. Fairchild Cinephonic should be changed to optical recording, too. One can wind picture and sound recording film on a spool, run them through their respective gates separately but over the sprocket drum together. Last link needed is an 8mm printer. Mad, I know.

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