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Stuart Finkelstein
Film Handler

Posts: 62
From: Boston, MA, USA
Registered: Dec 2010

posted July 15, 2015 11:17 PM

I have a collection of super 8 sound music videos from the late 70s and early 80s. They were purchased from the old days of the Big Reel.

They arrived on strange reels, which couldn't be used on a standard projector. When projected, the sound was advanced a full second and a half. So it was with all of them.

A digital delay device was needed to properly adjust for the difference, which it does. I enjoy them to this day.

My question: does anyone know what process/system used these types of films? Some of them do have record company logos, which leads me to believe these were professionally produced and licensed for some sort of film juke box use. Almost like a super 8 Scopitone system. Almost.

The films also have a disclaimer at the head, which I believe to be in French.

So maybe some of our forum members in Europe may have some idea as to what exactly these films are.

Thanks for looking.

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Paul Browning
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1006
From: West Midlands United Kingdom
Registered: Aug 2011

posted July 16, 2015 06:55 AM

Hi Stuart, I think your guess is correct, scopitone were a French company building what was I suppose the first video music jukebox. They were made from army surplus bits after the second world war, and the projectors inside were reworked spy cameras from spitfires no less. A friend has one, but its 16mm.Very complicated inside, with relays and spools of film on an endless loop. Most of his films have turned red now.

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Lee Mannering
Film God

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From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006

posted July 16, 2015 07:24 AM

Not sure my little heart can take it but here are the girls anyway!

https://youtu.be/8a02SqdXuq0

And how it works

https://youtu.be/oIQSZ2DwbW8

Go Go Scopitone!

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Clinton Hunt
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Waharoa,North Island,New Zealand
Registered: May 2010

posted July 16, 2015 08:08 AM

So that's how these machines work!
It's clever and makes sense,looks like the way a audio tape would work but with pictures too.
Thanks for sharing the link [Smile]

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Cheers from me in New Zealand :-)

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Dominique De Bast
Film God

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From: Brussels, Belgium
Registered: Jun 2013

posted July 16, 2015 08:24 AM

Unlike 16 mm scopitones films which can be projected in standard projectors, super 8 ones have indeed a second out of sync sound.

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Dominique

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Stuart Finkelstein
Film Handler

Posts: 62
From: Boston, MA, USA
Registered: Dec 2010

posted July 16, 2015 06:58 PM

Did the super 8 Scopitone mechanism compensate for the sound difference with its design?

Does anyone have any images of a super 8 Scopitone unit? By most accounts, the whole Scopitone fad had faded by the late 1960s. We remember them for their risque 60s style product; not for their presentation of 70s disco.

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