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Robert Lee
Film Handler

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From: San Francsico, CA, USA
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posted September 12, 2017 02:28 PM

So I can use regular scotch tape when splicing. It will save money on Kodak presstapes or save time waiting for film cement to dry.

Where can I buy leader trimer for 8mm and 16mm?

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Maurice Leakey
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posted September 12, 2017 02:48 PM

Robert
1) Do not use regular Scotch tape which is unsuitable for film joining. Only use the correct specified tape.
2) The range of CIR joiners in their three gauges will all perforate the tape as they join.
3) Not sure what you mean by "leader trimmer".

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Robert Lee
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posted September 12, 2017 03:04 PM

It's a film trimmer that usually comes with a projector. You use it to trim the leader so the machine can feed it in better.

Where can I buy a CIR/Ciro/Guillotine splicer for 8mm and super 8? Only ebay? It seems most guillotine splicers on ebay are for super 8, hard to find for regular 8.

This one looks nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wVlRAI33EE Found it on ebay for $160, I'll wait for a better deal.

[ September 12, 2017, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: Robert Lee ]

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Will Trenfield
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posted September 12, 2017 04:39 PM

I remember the warnings not to use regular Scotch tape to splice magnetic tape many years ago. The problem was that the adhesive would spread from beneath the tape and could clog up the magnetic heads.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 12, 2017 04:49 PM

It's too thick, too strong and completely the wrong stuff.

Just buy Jackro 8mm / 16mm splice tape as can be bought by the roll and a Super 8mm / 16mm C.I.R. splicer.
Problem solved.

Simples [Wink]

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Janice Glesser
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posted September 12, 2017 06:30 PM

Robert...I bought my Std. 8mm Ciro splicer from Ewan Colsell in the UK.He sells both Super 8 and Std 8 reconditioned Ciro splicers. He does not sell 16mm splicers.

http://cirsplicers.ewancolsell.com

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 12, 2017 06:48 PM

There are plenty that still do Janice, Globally for these two popular gauges.

Why do people always look to the alternative before seeking the correct, most obvious and correct path en route to their issues? [Confused]

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Robert Lee
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posted September 12, 2017 07:42 PM

Janice, thanks for the link.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted September 13, 2017 03:05 AM

Robert
Regarding film trimmers.
Various projectors each seem to have their own idea of a cut for lacing. Most Super 8 and standard 8 projectors come with a loose trimmer (it often seems to walk!). Many instruction books often show a drawing of the cut which they recommend, this you can follow with a pair of scissors.
Most 16mm projectors have a built-in trimmer.

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Robert Lee
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posted September 13, 2017 04:17 PM

Maurice,
Thanks for the tip. It's easier if I can buy them but looks like ebay is my only choice so I will keep a lookout for it.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 13, 2017 05:17 PM

All of the correct and appropriate kit is out there Robert.
It is just a question of whether or not you are comfortable in paying out for what it takes you to gain what you seek from a professional and acceptable film joint.

Some are, all too many are not, such is this hobby! [Wink]

I think I may have kinda answered my own earlier question here as always. [Big Grin]

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