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Robert Crewdson
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posted January 02, 2018 01:26 PM

I'd never thought about the two camps before, but now you mention it, I only came across 2 people in the 70s who had home movies, they never mentioned package films, so I think they went into it just to record the family.

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Tom Photiou
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posted January 02, 2018 02:11 PM

Robert, i think a lot of people only had projectors to view films of there own families, i find it quite sad to see so many people on ebay actually selling off there private made family films. Even more odd that anyone would want to buy them [Confused]

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Graham Ritchie
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posted January 02, 2018 02:54 PM

Steve...all about a roof rack [Big Grin]

Tom..thats terrible that people are selling of there home movies that is a definate "no no" in my book, those are personal films, and should be stored away by a family member....sad.

Looking back to the 70s mixing package movies like Star Wars [Cool]

and taking home movies, were all part of the fun of 8mm. I was watching some stuff last night that I took back in the 1970s and unlike those long ago faded Star Wars films The stuff I took still looks great.

Magazine like Moviemaker, Film Making, of those times covered not only making your own films eg striping etc, but included excellent reviews of films to buy as well, they covered all aspects of Super8, for me that's what its about

I never had a problem with puting on a away film show, but always used a couple of single 8 ohm extension speakers for the ST1200. The screen was a old 7ft wide roller blind with a painted black border...everything was make shift.

The time taken to put those short films onto larger reels prior to the screening, with only one stop for a single reel change did pay of. Its a lot of work, but if you intend to put a show on for others you need to get things right. [Smile]

otherwise it all falls apart. [Smile]

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Tom Photiou
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posted January 02, 2018 03:20 PM

Blimy Graham thats almost a ditto for our super 8 past, we still often get out the home made movies, our first one, a test of the winde up standard 8 silent camera, was simply my Brothers and me kicking a football about in the local park, filmed by my Mum, complete with the overexposed bit when we had to turn the chunky spools over for the second half so to speak, i was 9 years old and the colours are as good today as they were then.
Our own films, except the war effort, we did were nothing more than us having a laugh. Great fun, and in between our collection of package movies were beginning.
I will dig out a photo of my very early days later and get it up here. [Wink]

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Steve Klare
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posted January 02, 2018 03:22 PM

-interesting you should say that Graham!

A couple of years ago I was considering putting the screen inside some PVC pipe and bolting it down to my roof racks.

-A one of a kind cinema accessory for sure!

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Joe Caruso
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posted January 02, 2018 04:05 PM

Melvin, package films reminds me of original boxes, there is the origin of Shorty - Sharing with others at gatherings and such is best - Look at all we've learned from each other right here on the forums! - Cheers, Shorty

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Will Trenfield
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posted January 02, 2018 06:02 PM

Regarding family home movies on eBay, there'll be many with films but no projector. So, they might well send them off, at considerable expense, to a company to put them onto DVD.
Having their films returned would be another expense so they might opt out of that leaving the company to dispose of their films. Maybe some find their way onto eBay as well as those from house clearances.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted January 02, 2018 09:23 PM

Home movies being sold might seem a bit sad, but the far worse scenario are the ones thrown away by people unwilling to retain them, having decided that their DVD copy is not only the best way to view the films, but also a superior format with a longer life!!

But there are also people with no descendants or close relations who would want their films. Various archives seek home movies for social history, so anyone fearing their home movies are likely to end up in a skip could consider leaving them to such bodies.

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Graham Ritchie
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posted January 03, 2018 11:49 AM

Steve thats a good idea for putting a screen into and having sealed capping at either end to keep any rain out [Cool]

One would hope that the places folk take there films to, inform them the reasons why they should retain the 8mm films even after a transfer. The fact is that "digital" wont last, but the film print will, and disposing of the film means that they will never be able to do any future transfer. I would go as far as to say, that its irresponsible for any transfer company not to state this fact to there customers.

Adrian thats a good point regarding any historical footage. I am doing just that at present for a heritage park.

By not having a projector anymore, is no excuse to dispose of the films, and making money out of selling them might just go down like a lead balloon, when other family members find out. Once sold you dont have any control as to how those films and more importantly the contents will be used...so dont sell them.

PS....About sharing a hobby..I added this to the facebook page of one of the places I once worked at 20 years ago yesterday. The quality of the Super8 I took was not good, I should have done a lot better, however it captured a time and place and gives those that once worked there a [Smile]

...I am sure, so there you go... its sharing [Smile]

https://vimeo.com/249484338

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Will Trenfield
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posted January 03, 2018 04:56 PM

I had a look at several companies offering cine to digital transfers. All would return the original films for the cost of postage or had included it in the price for the transfer. Only one company, though, explained why it was important to retain the original films. Going back to the original topic, I'm yet another who enjoys the hobby solo.

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David Hardy
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posted January 03, 2018 06:00 PM

I used to do shows out and about for kids birthday parties and Sunday School Church film shows in the past.

I also ran a film shows club...Hermes Film Club.. from my home away back in the day to members who contributed with the expenses of film hire and lamp spares.

Happy memories of these.

However these days I mostly watch shows on my own but I may be up and running again giving shows later this year in the Village Hall.

A lot of kids have never seen a film projector in action so this could be of interest to them. So I will need to get my 16mm and 8mm machines a good service soon if this comes off.

It will be great to get a larger audience once again. [Smile]

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Graham Ritchie
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posted January 03, 2018 10:12 PM

And this is why we often watch films on our own.. [Big Grin]

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David Hardy
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posted January 04, 2018 03:19 AM

Graham ... I have seen that one before. Hahahahahaha !!! [Smile]

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Tom Photiou
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posted January 04, 2018 11:25 AM

Good one Graham,
Yes i must admit i did use to really like doing the films shows for the odd Birthday party and every year with the ST Johns Badgers when my three were kids and in that group.
This would have been around 20 years ago and lasted for around 17 years, (this is the third year i have not been asked to do it due to the group being so small with little interest, sad), as each year went by you could see more and more of the younger members looking totally baffled at the projector.
One thing was guaranteed though, no matter how hyper they were once the lights went down and cartoons started they were fixed to screen and laughed a out loud all the way through the show and never once misbehaved. [Wink]

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Jake Mayes
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posted January 04, 2018 05:13 PM

I often take the projector to friend's houses along with personal reels and have fun screening films. Some of my reversal prints have been played well over 100 times and look like new.

Many have fun on nights out and other stuff filming with and being filmed by it, a family or friend event becomes an art for me with Super 8.

Even tonight i just had a screening with some friends of all my reversal prints and our christmas ones at their house.

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Douglas Warren
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posted January 05, 2018 02:30 AM

I watch my films alone, but my wife fully supports and understands my hobby. Since I've been ill the last two years, it means a lot to me to relax with my films or working on my projectors.

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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posted January 05, 2018 04:46 AM

I too watch my films alone,unless we,the members of the "Greek Mafia" as Tony Reypert calls us, gather together at each other's houses. Something that luckily happens about once a month.

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Joe Caruso
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posted January 05, 2018 01:05 PM

Stay well, Doug - Shorty

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Tom Photiou
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posted January 05, 2018 03:14 PM

Panayotis, im with you [Big Grin]

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Mark Todd
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posted January 05, 2018 03:36 PM

On the other side of the coin my ex hated it with avengance to say the least.

I was often caught out hummimng the theme to a film I had reserved etc, so she would be on to it and a big oh no you don`t would come down on me.

Worst was when I was offered a mint barely used GS1200 cheap and she heard me on the phone. That was the end of that.

But my eldest son now again likes to watch more cine with me so thats really nice.

But he`s decided to stay out of the hobby more or less on the cost front with his family etc and just do it with me and just take a machine home now and again.

I was trying to get him a really nice machine to use but he can`t afford the films he would like anyway so hes staying LCD.

Just out of interest what is the youngest person you know who does cine now on a regular footing.

Of people who I know their ages I think the youngest is about 48.

Best Mark.

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Bill Brandenstein
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posted January 05, 2018 05:26 PM

I try to inflict the hobby on family and friends whenever possible. I'm blessed with audiences more times than not, and try to make the show worth their while. Or at least a "keep or sell" vote!

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David Hardy
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posted January 05, 2018 05:37 PM

Jake... its always a good thing to share your projectors and films with other people outside of your home. I have always found it to be a reward in itself. Good on you. [Smile]

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Daniel D. Teoli Jr.
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posted January 05, 2018 06:02 PM

No one shares and everyone shares. I'm not a projectionist. I acquire, conserve and digitize old reels to put online for free.

I get no help from anyone nor any family support. It is all what I can do...alone!

If I could put the hi res DVD's online I would, but can only put MP4. Even then YouTube takes half them down.

Film stock came as an offshoot from my still photo archive work in early 2017.

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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posted January 06, 2018 03:46 AM

Tom,and everybody else in this forum,you are most welcome!!!

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Richard C Patchett
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posted January 06, 2018 12:29 PM

Greetings

This is on my web site
My interest in the classic movie industry:

I started to repair projectors in High School. Carried my

talents into the USMC 1968. I learned more.

1st wife had no interest in film. For 12 years I sort of gave up.

May 1990 my new wife introduced me to the Classic Movies Cinevent in Columbus, Ohio and we continue to enjoy sharing this hobby and making an annual trip. Within a couple of years this interest expanded to buying and repairing projectors and doing film presentations. It didn't take long to discover there is still a huge demand not only for repair work but new and used parts. I started getting increased requests for repairs during Cinevent visits and during the year as word spread of my dedication and commitment to meeting repair demands. Initially, I sold parts from my room and the dealer floor as word spread of the availability. Eventually the director (Steven Haynes) of Cinevent approached me and asked if I would provide an ongoing repair service at the annual event and he has provided visibility to those attending by positioning my vendor table on the main floor for the past years. Currently, I display parts and equipment for sale along with the projector repair.

Over the course of time i have supplied projectors, parts and service of Bell & Howell, Elmo, Eiki and other projectors to those in the USA. Sales on parts have expanded to overseas at locations in Argentina, Denmark, UK, Spain, Italy, Poland and the Netherlands. Currently, I purchase parts from 7 different suppliers. Initial orders started with the purchase of bulbs. The demand for parts and suppliers has increased significantly.

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