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Topic: Snow White burned frame - Solutions ?
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Miguel Gimenez
Film Handler
Posts: 52
From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 02, 2016 10:29 AM
Hello
Recently I have done a sublime nonsense by putting my Derann's Snow White movie into a Chinon SS1200 (which worked normally well), with the result of motor stopping and burning one frame...
I can't forgive me for this stupidity. This is my favorite movie and my favorite scene (magic mirror in the wall...) ![[Mad]](mad.gif) ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Of course, at side of repairing the Chinon, I am looking for a new and good projector. Thanks to the knowledge and extreme patience and kindness of people in this forum, specially Andrew and Jean-Marc now I know which projector to go for.
Meanwhile, I can't live with the burned frame. So I am looking for a way to solve that.
What can I do to repair it?
I thought in finding this scene from a Derann's print that maybe went bad in other part, and that someone would discard or could supply it, and see if I could replace the burned frame (or the related plane). Don't know if someone has this part. eBay seems pretty useless regarding super 8 films, in my experience.
I don't know if there is other thing to do. Is there?
At side of that, I think I am decided to buy another copy of Derann's Snow White if I can find it.
Which advice do you have to fix the disaster ? The film support seems not to be affected.
Thanks!
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Miguel Gimenez
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From: Grenoble, France
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posted April 02, 2016 12:44 PM
I must rectify.
There are two frames burned, and the film is affected. It is one frame burned completely, next is ok, and next is burned too.
More exactly the scene is when the Queen go up the stairs towards the magic mirror. I guess that this discards the PICCOLO FILM edition, I'm afraid (although maybe it would have not fit, as Steve comments, I don't know).
So, a Derann portion is I think my only hope, and change part or all the sequence.
Or remove and join the rest...But I guess it will be more noticeable.
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Luis Caramelo
Master Film Handler
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From: Funchal
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted April 02, 2016 02:24 PM
hi! Miguel,i know what you feel,i do got also a print of snow white from derann,in my opinion i would stay the print like it ,s
the two frames burned are not notable in the screen,just get attention when you run a print again used na old film to check if the projector it,s o,k,even so these kind of things happend when we less expected,i do got na chinon st-1200.until now i diden,t got a single problema but in the future who knows...
best;
luis caramelo
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Miguel Gimenez
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From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 03, 2016 02:22 PM
...and watch out, the commercials could not be the worst! I am not sure there in UK, but nowadays normally when they broadcast a movie they take the same version than is sold in DVD/BD.
The last (several editions by now) digital editions have ruined it really (together with Pinocchio and others), changed colors, lines, scenes, credits, etc
I have a project underway to build faithful (as much as posible) editions (DVD) of these classics taking the source from super 8 (the most reliable and faithful edition by far comparing with any LD, DVD, VHS, BD versions) for colors (color management required), and some scenes from Laserdisc editions (which indeed respected quite correctly the original), but this is another story... Lots of research and reading and viewing, but I am coming closer ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
This is one of the reasons (but not the only one, of course ) why I love so much these Super 8 editions.
BTW Andrew, 'for the very first time on British television.' ? What a surprise !
About the Beaulieu: yes, sure will see If I have luck. For the moment I have written to the eBay one in Germany asking details, although sure it is too expensive, and the projector itself does not seem from the later years neither... Tomorrow I'll start contacting friends.
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Miguel Gimenez
Film Handler
Posts: 52
From: Grenoble, France
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted April 04, 2016 01:05 PM
Yes Osi, I can't live neither with these burned (burnt? ![[Wink]](wink.gif) ) frames, well, at least for a so beloved film/edition like this is.
At side of if finally I repair it by cut & splice or by finding a new scene to replace, I am also going to look for a new copy.
Also, at side of my feelings, as I explained above I use the S8 Derann edition as a kind of 'master' for a reconstruction of a faithfully edition in digital (even telecine maybe), as it is really scandalous the alterations done by Disney in the oficial editions. If you add to this the fact that they were selling off some of the original cells that served to film some of the original movies... go figure. To honor the truth I can't swear if SW is affected yet by this trade, but maybe is a matter of time.
I think I could accept this in other feature, but in this one... it's hard.
I have learnt a lesson the hard way, but...I have also learnt so much here in few days, that I have a bittersweet feeling. I hope I can find a good Beaulieu and a new SW print.
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