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Simon McConway
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From: Doncaster, UK
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posted April 26, 2008 09:59 AM

What have you watched recently on 16 mm and what projector were you using? I have watched Diamonds Are Forever (scope) on the Elf Xenon 2000A. Prior to that, I watched The Fourteen starring June Brown of Eastenders fame!

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Michael O'Regan
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posted April 26, 2008 10:45 AM

Just watched Hitchcocks SHADOW OF A DOUBT - excellent reduction I recently bought.
My trusty RM-1

-Mike

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Clive Carmock
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posted April 26, 2008 05:32 PM

Just watched Back to the Future - stunning print.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted April 26, 2008 10:29 PM

Danny Kaye in "The Court Jester". What a great film!

Doug

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Paul Spinks
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posted April 27, 2008 08:19 PM

Disney's "Rob Roy, the Highland Rogue" with Richard Todd and the lovely Glynis Johns on my Elf RM 1. A beautiful Technicolor print that I bought off Larry Pearce many years ago.

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Germaine Fodor
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From: Raleigh, NC, USA
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posted May 27, 2008 06:41 PM

last watched:

"Collective Behavior - Civil Disturbances: Part I- Evolution of Disorder and Crowd Psychological Factors" (U.S. Army, 1975)
This film was made for military police and soldiers on what causes civil disturbances and riots.

"Comparative Tests On A Human And A Chimpanzee Infant Of Approximately The Same Age, Part 2" (Psychological Cinema Register of Pennsylvania State College, 1932)
Oh wow...one of the 'tests' is tying a baby chimp and a little boy to a swivel-chair and spinning them around. SCIENCE!

"Blues Maker" (Christian Garrison/Univ of Mississippi, 1969)
Shows Mississippi blues singer, "Mississippi" Fred McDowell, singing and talking about his blues. Includes scenes of the area which helped to shape his country blues.

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Mark Mander
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posted May 28, 2008 04:05 AM

Just watched my copy of Escape to Athena that i bought at Ealing on Saturday and a lovely print it is to ...Mark

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Flavio Stabile
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posted May 29, 2008 08:39 AM

last watched with my ELMO 16Cl-XENON

007 MOONRAKER - Lpp - Scope

MISSION - Lpp - Scope

Absoletuly stunning prints with excellent colors! [Big Grin]

Flavio

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Germaine Fodor
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From: Raleigh, NC, USA
Registered: Feb 2006

posted June 01, 2008 02:27 AM

and also-

I can't wait to watch all these great goofy "Tales of the Riverbank" which I just dug up from the basement!
(any Canadians out there - did you grow up with this show?)

Oh, and that's on the elmo 16cl.
-OR- the Bosch FDL-60....

(Yeah, ok, I actually have NO idea how to use the bosch!)

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John Davey
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From: Chesterton, Indiana USA
Registered: Nov 2004

posted June 03, 2008 02:57 AM

John Waters' "Pink Flamingos" Lovely AGFA Stock, excellent condition.

"Performance" IB Tech. Need a little work.

"Team America: World Police" Bandsaw Print I am slowly putting together. Just finished Reel One.

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Patrick Walsh
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posted June 09, 2008 04:24 AM

Just watched
LAUREL AND HARDY THIS IS YOUR LIFE 16mm TV episode, and at the end of the episode all the guest audience got a free 16mm projector and a sound copy of the episode provided by Bell and Howell.
Pat [Big Grin]

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Stewart McSporran
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posted June 09, 2008 04:21 PM

Just watched four Betty Boop cartoons and Laurel and Hardy in Tit for Tat.

John - when you say "bandsaw print" do you literally mean one that's been cut up? So you're basically splicing one foot, or less, sections together? I assume you're going to loose at least one frame for every splice; doesn't this make the film very annoying to watch?

Stewart

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Paul Spinks
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posted June 09, 2008 09:01 PM

I have heard of these "Bandsaw" prints. You would get through a hell of a lot of splicing tape putting them together and as you get further into the reel the splices get closer and closer. Still, if you've got the patience it is a way of getting a print of a modern film reasonably cheaply. Obviously, these prints are cut up this way to stop them being made available to home collectors. However as they are available on DVD and would project in that format quite nicely it does seem a terrible shame to treat the few available 16mm prints this way. I imagine that the cost of making these prints must be very expensive and who would they be intended for?

Paul.

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John Davey
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From: Chesterton, Indiana USA
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posted June 12, 2008 04:46 AM

Stewart-

Yup. That's exactly what I mean. I haven't lost that many frames so far. Fortunately the bandsaw didn't do enough damage to have to remove a frame or two every foot. I will view the print again and give a full report about how annoying it is. I do not remember it being as distracting as I thought it would be.

I bought this print because it was cheap and a movie I thoroughly enjoy. I figured I would try out the whole bandsaw thing and see if it's worth the time/effort.

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Steven Sigel
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posted June 13, 2008 01:42 PM

Just screened my print of the silent version of Hitchcock's "Blackmail" struck from the BFI negative... Nice.. And actually quite a bit better film than the sound version...

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Michael O'Regan
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posted June 13, 2008 02:18 PM

I have the sound version. Didn't realise there were silent versions around.

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Steven Sigel
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posted June 13, 2008 04:32 PM

The story is that the movie was made silent, right on the cusp of sound coming into the UK... When it became obvious that sound was coming in - Hitchcock re-filmed large chunks of the film as a Talkie.. The sound version was the one in general wide release (and the version most commonly available) -- but the silent version had a limited release to theatres that had not yet been equiped for sound.

I'm not sure that it was ever officially lost, but prints were certainly nearly impossible to find until the BFI turned up a nitrate 35mm...

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Michael O'Regan
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posted June 13, 2008 04:52 PM

From what I know, Hitchcock re-filmed the sound sequences under protest. He was not a fan of sound pictures at all, believing that the introduction of sound destroyed the purity of the art of the moving picture.

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Steven Sigel
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posted June 13, 2008 07:18 PM

It's definitely true that the silent version is a lot better...

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