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Topic: Running Print with Perf. Repair.

Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
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posted September 08, 2009 08:03 PM

I recently acquired an otherwise beautiful copy of "The Last Laugh" with Emil Jannings, but the print came from a school library.
Consequently, the first few feet of both 1600-ft reels have had a fair amount of sprocket damage from bad threading and such. It has been dutifully fixed with white perf. repair tape along the sprockets, but it results in some feet of film that are rather inflexible.
My EX-3500 hangs in there, the loop resetter is working overtime, but it is neither pretty to look at, nor to listen to.

Is there a way to 'soften' the film with the tape, to make it run better? I just know if I put FilmRenew on it, it most likely will dissolve all the sprocket repairs.
Any tricks? I really would love for this print to run well as it is very clean and sharp otherwise.

As always, any help is deeply appreciated,

Claus.

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Wayne Tuell
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From: Minden, NV
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posted September 13, 2009 01:06 PM

It might not be a bad idea to soak in cleaner to remove and replace the old hard white tape with new softer clear per-fix tape if it is shrunken.

Another option would be to use pure camphor to soften things up without removing the per-fix tape if it is not shrunken.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted September 13, 2009 03:08 PM

If you don't opt to try the above suggestions, I don't think it's all that likely that Film Renew will take off the tape, if you don't overdo the quantity. Must say though that I've rarely seen what I'd consider a good effective repair with Per-fix and if it was fully effective in the case of your film, the loop restorer would probly not be kicking in. In my experience, the tape tends to not perfectly match the sprocket holes, and if the damage has caused the tape to take the full impact of the claw, that adds to the unsteadiness.

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Jim Schrader
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From: Savage, MN, USA
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posted September 14, 2009 01:14 PM

I had a few films that had this problem and the loop was lost shutting down the machine but if the machine has 3 pull down claws it seems to work better if you have one try it and see.

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Tom A. Pennock
Master Film Handler

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From: Battle Creek, MI. USA
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posted September 28, 2009 05:32 PM

I would think that the later Bell & Howell units have three pull down claws and would work better.

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted September 28, 2009 05:58 PM

Well, my machines are Eikis, so I think either the FilmRenew route or a re-do of the perfs might be in order.
Thanks all for the input.

Claus.

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