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Topic: IB Tech ... printed for Theatrical or Library?
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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 26, 2013 01:27 PM
Hey ... this might be my first post on the 16MM part of this forum.
My curiousity is that, comparing both IB Tech prints of various titles to eastman or otherwise, I've found that the IB Tech prints are always a notch up in quality, not just color reproduction, but in all cateogies.
It makes me wonder, were the IB Tech prints specifically designed for theatrical presentation, or were they printed for either venue, (library, theatrical ect.)
I bear in mind that many theaters (even up to just recently) would project 16MM prints for they're presentations.
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Oemer Yalinkilic
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Berlin, Germany
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted March 27, 2013 02:12 PM
Osi, 16mm IB Tech. prints were struck for TV stations, librarys, military, schools and also for theatrical use too.
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I had in the past few different 16mm prints of Ten Commandments and still I have few reels of a print and the quality was on some prints very good and some gorgeous. I have also a 35mm print and Vista Vision prints are always better in 35mm, because the image of 16mm prints is cropped.
Here is a screenshot from a 16mm print:
And here is (unfortunately a bad picture) the same scene from my 35mm print.
The 35mm print is not so bad as it looks on the pic above, so here is another one from the 35mm print.
[ March 27, 2013, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: Oemer Yalinkilic ]
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Mitchell Dvoskin
Expert Film Handler
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From: West Milford, NJ
Registered: Jun 2008
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posted April 12, 2013 03:02 PM
Not counting the short lived re-introduction of IB tech in the late 1990's...
For 35mm, 1974 was the last year in the USA, 1977 was the last year in England. There are British IB Tech 35mm prints of Star Wars from 1977.
I believe that 1971 was the last year for 16mm IB Tech prints in the USA.
A while ago Richard Haines sent me some photo's of his Trip to
When Technicolor shut down USA IB printing, the equipment was sold to the Beijing Film Lab in China. In 1989, Richard Haines went to China to have his film Space Avengers printed in IB. He went back a few years later for a subsequent film, but the IB line had been discontinued.
Original release 35mm prints of 10 Commandments were IB Tech here in the USA.
VistaVision went though the projector horizontally, not vertically, and were shown with a VistaVision projector. As very few theatres installed VistaVision projectors, Paramount converted all VistaVision films to regular vertical 35mm 4 perf film, and from that it was printed down to 16mm. Therefore, a regular 35mm or 16mm print is not VistaVision, even though the title was shot in VistaVision.
With the exception of pornography and repertory, I can count on zero fingers how many theatres in the USA ran 16mm. In the mid 1980's, AMC Theatres in the USA experimented with 16mm, and Elmo built optical stereo 16mm projectors, but the project was discontinued and considered a failure.
A while ago, Richard Haines sent me some photos of his trip to Beijing in June 1989. The first is Richard Haines, the second picture are the dyed matrices, the third and forth picture are other parts of the lab.
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