8mm Forum: CineSea 13 is April 30th

8mm Forum

my profile | my password | search | faq | register | forum home

next oldest topic

next newest topic

»	8mm Forum » 16mm Forum » CineSea 13 is April 30th

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!

Author

Topic: CineSea 13 is April 30th

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 11, 2016 06:54 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I thought anyone who participates solely in the 16mm Forum should see this too.

CineSea 13 is April 30th

CineSea is as much a 16mm event as 8mm and peace and harmony reigns among all gauges found there!

Personal Note: I bought my very first 16mm print the other day and am waiting for it to arrive.

I'm in no hurry...I have nothing to project it on!

What hath God wrought?!

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Andrew Woodcock
Film God

Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted February 11, 2016 07:09 PM

Edit/Delete Post

Boo Hiss!

[Big Grin]

[Big Grin]

[Wink]

Super 8mm as said already tonight elsewhere, epitomises everything i was ever succumbed to by film in the first place for.

Stereo tracks, no optical sound crackle & pop!

A backward step if you ask me Steve. (Though you weren't of course respectfully)

Super 8 in the late 80's, both for equipment and it's film releases, surpassed anything until you get to cinema 35mm standards IMMHOO.

Long Live Super 8mm!! [Smile]

[Smile]

90322 vs 8945 (some of which I have contributed to myself may I add), says I may have a point here Steve! [Smile]

[Smile]

I reckon by the time I have a fad for 16, I will be converted fully into 4 or even 10k by preference.

--------------------
"C'mon Baggy..Get with the beat"

| IP: Logged

Douglas Meltzer
Moderator

Posts: 4554
From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 11, 2016 10:21 PM

Email Douglas Meltzer

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I've deleted a couple of posts here......

This is not a thread debating which gauge is superior. It's a thread mentioning that those interested in 16mm might also be interested in attending a particular gathering. Let's leave it that way.

Doug

--------------------
I think there's room for just one more film.....

| IP: Logged

Andrew Woodcock
Film God

Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted February 12, 2016 05:33 AM

Edit/Delete Post

Yes fair enough Doug thanks.

--------------------
"C'mon Baggy..Get with the beat"

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 12, 2016 06:51 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

You have now crossed over to the dark side Steve!I'm now concentrating my film hobby on the 16 mm side of the tracks.If I may ask,what title do you have arriving in this format?

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 12, 2016 08:08 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

It's a Marty Stauffer nature documentary about bighorn sheep in the Rocky Mountains hosted by John Denver.

I'm actually doing this more for the available content than anything else. 16mm has films such as this one that I don't see on 8.

Lou Franchetti's tables at CineSea are a pile easily 20 feet by 2 feet by a foot high of 16mm film, and he's not the only one selling there either.

-I'd like to be eligible for that too!

The last time I bought a film I couldn't project I was 16 years old.

-History repeats!

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Paul Barker
Master Film Handler

Posts: 395
From: Lancashire, England
Registered: Jun 2014

posted February 12, 2016 10:31 AM

Email Paul Barker

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

welcome to 16mm film Steve. its a wonderful gauge. my favourite any day. as you say there is an abundance of titles available on 16mm that you will never ever see on 8mm.im sure you will come away from cinesea with one or two more on 16mm.

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 12, 2016 10:39 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I've seen that one in listings while eBay surfing.I'm a huge trailer fan and 16mm offers much more in that way than 8/Super-8.As Paul pointed out there's titles that were never released in Super-8 but 16mm has them.Next step Steve:In Search Of...The 16mm Projector.

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 12, 2016 11:09 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I'm working on a projector right now.

I'm also working on storage.

Those trailers are an excellent example of what I'm talking about.

I'm a Drive-In Theater fan (-have my own car speaker!), and I'd love to have some drive in daysets.

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 12, 2016 03:21 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

There's tons of old drive-in concession stand trailers which I feel would be really cool to edit into a feature length film. Any hint regarding makes/models of 16mm projectors that have caught your eye?

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 12, 2016 09:37 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

Yes, At least for now I'm thinking Kodak Pageant.

I'd like something simple and robust with a lot of spare parts available.

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Graham Ritchie
Film God

Posts: 4001
From: New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2006

posted February 12, 2016 10:09 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

Steve

If you are going to buy a 16mm projector make sure it has a three claw pull down like the later B/H slot loaders.. "not two" There are a lot of 16mm prints out there that are a bit "iffy" with sprocket hole damage. The "three claw" is more forgiving with a lesser chance on loosing your loop, a three claw 16mm projector is almost a must these days.

| IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 12, 2016 10:17 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

Food for thought!

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 13, 2016 04:46 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I highly recommend the Kodak Pageants.I own two AV-126-TR's (one is a parts machine for the other) and a 8K 5 model.That model has the arms that drop down in the front instead of the top like most models.The Kodak Pageants can be found at good prices and they're built very strong & solid.

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Joe Caruso
Film God

Posts: 4105
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 13, 2016 06:53 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

Marty Stouffer - His WILD AMERICA show was one I never missed - Reminded me of WILD KINGDOM - Long-live all gauges of film, for in them we find all we want - It's just that much 8 and Super 8 have such wonderful boxes which add to the pleasantry...Shorty

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 13, 2016 10:19 PM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I fully agree as film,no matter what the gauge brings joy to all collectors of celluloid.And so very true about the box art on 8/Super-8 boxes with Castle Films (in my opinion) being the pinnacle of home movie box-top art.

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Andrew Woodcock
Film God

Posts: 7477
From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012

posted February 14, 2016 03:37 AM

Edit/Delete Post

The Derann Disney features weren't too shabby either for artwork Douglas, it has to be said [Wink]

[Wink]

(All thanks to Disney's input on this)

It's true to say,of course,as Steve points out, there are very many titles on 16mm that simply were never available on any 8mm format.

If you want for example,full episodes of The Addams Family or many of The James Bond movies, 16mm would be the only viable to watch these on film.

There are of course different merits for each of the gauges, being passionate about Super 8mm, I just like to hear of as many people as possible remaining interested in both the films and equipment for gauge.
It did offer a level of creative sophistication all of its own by the time the gauge peaked.

--------------------
"C'mon Baggy..Get with the beat"

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 14, 2016 10:50 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

Good points all around Andrew and my love of 8/Super-8 hasn't changed,I'm just venturing into a new territory with 16 mm.The Disney prints sold here in the States and those by Derran Films did indeed have beautiful artwork.You can tell a lot of thought went into their box-tops.

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted February 15, 2016 11:00 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

All things being equal I'd still get the Super-8 print just to keep my storage reasonable.

-but then again all things aren't always equal and now I can allow for that.

Another way to look at this is If I have a good print of a film now, I'm not looking to replace it. Then again if 16mm really would bring an improvement I'd go for it.

One thing I really like is I've always had a warm spot for certain National Film Board of Canada films. Their format of choice was 16mm and I'll have a shot at owning those films.

--------------------
All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

| IP: Logged

Douglas Warren
Master Film Handler

Posts: 282
From: West Chester, OH, USA
Registered: Feb 2008

posted February 15, 2016 11:30 AM

Send New Private Message

Edit/Delete Post

I fully understand regarding space and storage as 16 mm does take up a lot more real estate than Super-8.I watched for the first time a batch of my 16 mm trailer reels last night and got a big kick out of them. Something cool too seeing them in the same format as they would have been shown on TV back in the 1970's. And considering that most of these ARE old station prints that ups the cool factor for me.And Steve good luck on your 16 mm projector search. Just be cautious about some of the Bell & Howell models as they suffer from the notorious "Cracked worm gear" issue.

--------------------
Turn out the lights,the movie is starting!

| IP: Logged

All times are Central

Move Topic

Delete Topic

next oldest topic

next newest topic

Printer-friendly view of this topic

Visit www.film-tech.com for free equipment manual downloads. Copyright 2003-2019 Film-Tech Cinema Systems LLC

UBB.classic^TM 6.3.1.2