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Mal Brake
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From: Neath, South Wales, UK
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 - posted August 21, 2006 05:16 PM      Profile for Mal Brake     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Heard on the BBC news today that following a single complaint, one of the children's channels is to edit T&J cartoons to remove scenes showing any character smoking cigarettes/cigars.
Never mind the ultra violence on some modern cartoons, that appears to be ok, but lighting up? that's a no-no.
[I'm a non-smoker, so the 60+ T&J's in my collection hasn't tempted me or my children/grandchildren)
Mal

[ August 24, 2006, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: Mal Brake ]

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Kevin Faulkner
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 - posted August 21, 2006 05:58 PM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
Yes I saw this too....how pathetic can you get. This is censorship going too far [Frown]

Kev.

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Michael De Angelis
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 - posted August 21, 2006 08:16 PM      Profile for Michael De Angelis   Email Michael De Angelis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Disney Studios have
been notorious for
editing the content
in their cartoons too.

The video release of
Melody Time has been
altered by airbrushing
out the rolled up cigarette
in Pecos Bill's mouth.

For more on censorship
visit this link:
Censored Cartoons

Michael

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Steve Klare
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 - posted August 21, 2006 09:04 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I never really understood the whole idea of the cartoon mouse being the good guy anyway! Sure, everybody loves mice until that fateful day you find one of the filthy little buggers having babies in your cupboard! Then all of a sudden it's glue boards, spring traps and any cat available!

Besides, if a mouse is good, isn't a rat even better??

I'd be a slightly happier guy if Bugs Bunny was half as available on Super-8 as Tom and Jerry!

(Rabbits are cute, fuzzy and quite delicious if necessary!)

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Andreas Eggeling
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 - posted August 22, 2006 04:58 AM      Profile for Andreas Eggeling     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

the turkish T.V. TRT (controlled by the government) banned
"Winnie the Pooh" because of the little pig. It wouldn´t agree with the islam.

best
Andreas

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David Brooks
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 - posted August 22, 2006 11:33 AM      Profile for David Brooks   Email David Brooks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah yes - political correctness. Don't affend anyone.

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

Why is evil still here?

What's next?

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Steve Klare
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 - posted August 22, 2006 11:51 AM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The evil is still here because it lives within each and every one of us. (Hopefully with at least enough good for balance!), and we can't hide from it.

Actually I've seen the future of cartoons. Being the Dad of a four year old boy I'm frequently a viewer of the Disney Channel. I've seen Mickey, Donald and Pluto animated in CGI there, but what's just as disturbing is the line of "educational" cartoons they also have. There's one called "Captain Carlos" about this little boy who is the Superhero of good nutrition(?), and this other one about this other little boy obsessed with good manners.

While I am in favor of both good diets and politeness, there is something about a cartoon with a little boy who is obsessed with the difference between a salad fork and a desert fork, and always ready to catch somebody else using the wrong one that makes me want to see him tumble off a cliff! (ala-Wile E. Coyote!)

Have a beer and a bar of Chocolate once in while Captain Carlos! It's good for the soul!

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Andrew Wilson
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 - posted August 22, 2006 04:02 PM      Profile for Andrew Wilson   Author's Homepage         Edit/Delete Post 
NOTHING SURPISES ME NOWDAYS.Super8 having to go thru our censors
like our videos and dvds next?.who knows!. I bloody hope not.Andy.

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Robert Aragon
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 - posted August 22, 2006 09:18 PM      Profile for Robert Aragon   Email Robert Aragon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
WOW. Frightening times. i know where it all began. But, where will it end?
As for offending. It's all the "incorrectness" which causes growth in the human animal. Without "bad",how may we define "good"? The developmental teaching of children as unique and individual beings, has methodically been swiped away from the family "unit" and replaced by BIG Brother. I grew up on Looney tunes, Tom and Jerry and those violent culprits. I defend them passionately.
For I can proudly say, I have yet to drop an anvil on someone's head, even if they were holding a cigarette.

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Graham Ritchie
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 - posted August 23, 2006 03:32 AM      Profile for Graham Ritchie   Email Graham Ritchie   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I gave my son a Eumig projector and some Tom and Jerry cartoons some years ago when he was about 7yrs old, he used to have friends round, and you could here the sound from the poor old Eumig going flat out coming from his room. [Roll Eyes] Children are not stupid, they no what they are watching isin't real. Steven and his friends are a lot older now and they love animals, and would never consider hurting any, as far as smoking, it is more likely they would get involved in this through influence at school than ever watching a cartoon.

Graham.

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Craig Hamilton
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 - posted August 23, 2006 04:41 AM      Profile for Craig Hamilton     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For Sale 21 Walton Tom & Jerry films. Now banned in the UK. Free cigar with every purchase. [Big Grin]

Craig

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Barry Johnson
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 - posted August 24, 2006 07:10 AM      Profile for Barry Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Screen them all,and make POINT that you are to all and sundry.The bloody thought police are having an easy ride with all the nanny-state wannabees these days.
Mary Whitehouse once tried to ban T & J PERMANENTLY.
Like anyone took notice of her either. [Mad]

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Tom Photiou
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 - posted August 25, 2006 10:05 AM      Profile for Tom Photiou     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
remember my FFTC article on this subject? [Big Grin]
When they question murderers and vandals do they ever ask how many cartoons they watched and when, especially T&J? NO [Eek!] I suggest they start asking.
Toss pots, thats all these people are who seem to have nothing else to worry about, jeeeeeessssss what is this world coming to? [Big Grin]

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Mike Peckham
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 - posted August 29, 2006 03:54 AM      Profile for Mike Peckham   Email Mike Peckham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I personaly think that the highly controversial BBC1 Sunday evening television series "last of the Summer Wine" should be axed on grounds of Negatvive gender Stereotyping! [Big Grin]

Mike [Cool]

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Sam James
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 - posted August 29, 2006 08:58 AM      Profile for Sam James   Email Sam James   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A letter to the Times, last week:

"Sir, Ofcom is to be commended for its stance on smoking in Tom & Jerry. However, having dealt with this scourge of the cartoon world, I urge it to turn its attention to an even greater evil. I refer to the Acme Corporation. For too long this irresponsible company has supplied gullible cartoon animals with rocket-propelled sleds, giant fireworks and other contraptions of doom. No after-sales support or training is offered and the purchase of such items invariably leads to the unsuspecting character exploding in mid-air or falling several miles over a cliff. I can think of no better use of public funds. Yours etc..."

Sam

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