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Graham Ritchie
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From: New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted January 10, 2009 03:10 AM
The last couple of nights the video projectors have been getting a bit of use "back to film tomorrow" The first VP I bought back in 1998 Sanyo PLC-250P second hand and apart from a change of lamp and a LCD panel clean this old thing keeps going now 12 years old I only use it for 4:3 image still looks fine for those old B/W films providing you dont sit to close.
Comparing it with the Panasonic PT-AX200E things have certainly moved on from those early days, for me Blu-Ray is still yet to come, however the image from this projector now connected to a Pioneer DVD Recorder DVR-660H and still using component out has been very impressive.
The old Sanyo, in their day quite expensive now not worth anything...such is the life of a video projector.
The General.. the image still OK but at a distance.
The Panasonic with its swing shutter complete with fishing line and weight, for the smooth transition from film to video...no on screen give away its video in this home cinema.
took those photos today hand held digital camera "photos have not been altered" "South Pacific" I watch this movie every so often, 9 foot wide picture camera on zoom about 15 feet away.
It will be a while before I make the move to Blu-Ray at the moment very happy with what I have got. However I still have more fun running the old film projectors and would never get rid of them, its been about 4 months now since we had a visit from our young 15 year old cinema projectionist and his family, he made a bee-line for that 80 year old Ernemann 35mm and ran it that night, he went straight pass the video projectors as if they were not there....zero interest in those things ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Graham. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
[ January 10, 2009, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Graham Ritchie ]
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Osi Osgood
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posted January 10, 2009 12:03 PM
Graham ...
Nice photo's! You know, it's funny, but my "Sharp" projection TV, about as old as your model, still looks great on the big screen. better with the laserdiscs i have found. It's curious.
I think perhaps, (and Kevin F. can back me up on this), each frame of the laserdisc captures all the original grain to the film print used, an so, (in my slightly informed opinion) the real grain to the film print actually "masks" some of the line of resoluttion problems, which, for some reason are slightly more apparent with DVD.
It's a good thing those lamps last a long damn. They cost 250.00 bloody dollars! (at least, the last time I bought one!)
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Paul Adsett
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posted January 10, 2009 12:45 PM
Hi Graham,
I think that swing shutter is a great idea - I will have to implement one for my set up.
Like you, I am very happy with my 720p Panasonic using standard DVD's and am in no hurry to jump into Blue Ray Disc. This is not because I do not like 1080p high definition, but soley due to the fact that, so far, there only a few of the great classic films available, with most BD releases being forgettable modern films which are just not worth collecting. I feel that the crown jewels of the movie studios are almost exclusively to be found on standard DVD, and BD presently has very little to offer the serious film collector.
One thing I find most heartening, is that many 'reel' film collectors like yourself have found that the joys of mechanical film projection are not diminished at all by having a video projector. Personally, my enjoyment of my film equipment has if anything increased since aquiring a video projector. I am sure there are a lot of collectors out there who now deeply regret dumping all their films and film equipment when they got into video projection.
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Graham Ritchie
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From: New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted January 11, 2009 11:40 PM
Steven
I bought mine after reading his review and to be honest I could not believe the photos he posted, they looked to good, as it turned out he was spot on and very happy with the results.
Rob
Hope you get your projector back soon its good you still have your film projectors, years ago I was invited to a film evening quite a few had turned up, well the video projector he was using developed a problem so he had to give up on it that night. The down side was he had sold of most of his films and projectors only one Super8 machine and home movies were left he had no back up and was embarrassed that he had been caught out, nothing to show.
Pat
I agree the modern multi-plex is as much fun to visit as a departure lounge at an airport Cinemas need to improve their image, this includes managers and projectionists as well, to many dont seem to care or seem interested in their customers. In our case with more and more organized projection room tours we seem to be moving away from that. I now leave that side to our junior projectionist ![[Cool]](cool.gif) "big hit with the ladies" its getting to know the customers, after all they are the ones paying our wages, presentation is what its all about lights, curtains, and having genuinely friendly staff.
Graham.
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Claus Harding
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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted November 26, 2009 01:24 PM
As Brad says,
The whole idea of 'sharpening' is unfortunately still with us, even in some of the more misbegotten Blu-Ray re-masters, seemingly driven by the idea that "High Resolution" translates into "Looking like Video."
I have shot video for 20 years at the broadcast level, and even with regular definition US video (when looking at broadcast original material) you don't need to 'jack up' the edges to have a pleasing, textured image. With HiDef, much less so.
People are so conditioned by reality TV and similar, to the point that when they are faced with a good 35mm image with its 'sharp without looking edgy' beauty, they don't understand or like it.
It isn't....sharp enough. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) despite the oodles of resolution on display, which would still blow away most HiDef efforts without any problem.
So, we get the ugly cranked-up displays at the stores, and people hammering the sharpness settings on their sets at home, and thinking that looks 'good.' ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Claus.
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