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Topic: Supply and Demand?
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Osi Osgood
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Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 04, 2011 01:36 PM
A disclaimor at the beginning of this post ....
This question is not asked concerning a single ebayer or seller in general, it's just a question, so I am certainly not going after anyone, nor would I have a desire to ... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
The question ...
Does it ever "irk" you when you put up a desire or a want for a film on any given film forum and then, magically, out of nowhere, someone starts an auction that very day or the day after (or shortly thereafter), for the very print you have searching for?
Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against free enterprise and making a buck. After all, on the plus side, the item you desire has popped up on ebay, (for instance) ...
I don't claim to be anymore moral or ethical than the next person, but if I heard that there was a "want", and I can fill it, I would personally e-mail the person, letting them know I have it available and they can buy or trade for it, instead of ...
"Hey, now's my chance to get this guy to bid this up on ebay (or the auction site of your choosing) against other people!"
I think the first choice would be better, as it extends the friendship or "comrade-ship" of the film community over just making a buck.
or am I just in the dark ages?
Your opinion, ladies and gentleman?
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted April 05, 2011 10:27 AM
I hadn't thought of that angle Steve, that's a good point. However, it seems like some of that can be alleviated by simply putting delivery confirmation on a package. However, even that can backfire as I found with a package I once had coming. That becomes totally iron clad if you get the delivery conformation which requires that you sign for it.
It think it comes down to what motivates a person in general, however. Now, a person who wants to make a nice profit is not evil. I'm not saying for a moment that they are some kind of scum bags, cuz they aren't. I do think a decision like this type reveals what is the inner drive or underlining principles of the person ...
Am I there for the good of all?
Am I there for just me?
Then there are so many other factors as well, but it pretty much comes down to those two options.
It is my personal opinion, but as a member of the "Film Collecting Fraternity", I would rather work for the good of all, instead of the profit of one, fostering a reputation of being there for others instead of just being there to get what I want.
That is one of the driving principles behind "Giosi Films". We will never make our negative costs back (for, to do so, we would have to charge more for our releases just to get that back, let alone show a profit), but we will put out those titles for the collector, and just bask in the enjoyment others will get from it.
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 06, 2011 10:27 AM
Don't worry, I'm quite chilled, as well as shaken and not stirred.
It's just a topic for thought.
Actually, after thousands of posts and topics, it can get fairly hard to come up with a topic we might not have talked about, and that thought (the topic of this post) I had thought about in the past, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person who may have thought that.
But I am calm. I have had my distemper shot (Bailey's Irish Cream), and in a very relaxed state ...
OK, you can take the straight jacket off, no, really, you can! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Osi Osgood
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posted April 06, 2011 12:32 PM
Ehhh, nothing profound about it ... just a question.
However, one last statement, (at least by me), it becomes obvious to anybody who too much time (like me) to do the statistics about such things, that there is a clear correlation between someone putting up a want for a film, and then it suddenly appearing for auction.
... and there's nothing really inherently wrong with that. After all, you'd like to get as much as you can for your film print, and your bound to get far more when there is a known want for it, (i.e. someone posting the want on a site), then if you just put it out there without a clear target "audience".
and now, back to the Bailey's .... ahhhh, and where's that guy with that strait jacket?! (grrrr!) ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 08, 2011 10:37 AM
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I could give numerous examples from the past, but many would say, "well, that's just coincidence" ... therefore ..
To be honest with you guys,....
If I have Grizzly Adams or Gorky Park (not faded prints), I will not put them here, because I knew exactly that it is only Osi interested with them.
Through the forum, the chance is to only get Osi paying my films for certain $$ that I realized would not that big.
What I am going to do is to set up Ebay listings with a starting price at what I think my friends here are able to pay.
After setting up on Ebay, I will let the members here know about them and let them bid on my prints. If no other bidders (outside the forum) put a bid, then forum members can pay at my starting price. Otherwise let the global auction decide the final value ![[Cool]](cool.gif) .
The same thing I will do for "Sleeping Wives"....if I have it.
Those three titles I mentioned above are not my cup of tea, but I also need to raise money for buying other things.
So it is not coincidence.
I am honest so nothing is hidden on me.
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