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David Hardy
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posted December 07, 2017 04:33 PM

Here is more terminology differences for fun.

What do you call them in your part of the world SPROCKETS or COGS ? [Smile]

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Steve Klare
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posted December 07, 2017 04:48 PM

Here a sprocket is a toothed wheel like what we use for film transport or to engage a chain drive, but a cog is usually a gear.

I call the pedal under my right foot that controls engine speed a "gas pedal". What do you call it?

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David Hardy
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posted December 07, 2017 05:47 PM

Steve so same as here in the UK then. ( weel in Scotland at least ).

I don't have a clue about the car pedal question as I don't drive therefore have never owned a car in my entire puff !

I am sure someone else can enlighten you on that one.
However this much I do know we don't say gas but petrol. [Big Grin]

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Paul Adsett
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posted December 07, 2017 06:01 PM

More car related terminology:
In the USA its called the hood, in the UK its called the Bonnet.
In the USA its called the trunk, in the UK its called the boot.
In the USA its called a motor, in the UK its called an engine.
In the USA Its called an island, in the UK its called a roundabout.
In the USA its called a gas pedal, in the UK its called an accelerator
In the USA its called a freeway, in the UK its called a motorway.
In the USA its called a tire, in the UK its called a tyre.
Some others:
Garbage is rubbish
Faucet is valve
Electronic tube is electronic valve
Scale is ruler
Calling someone is ringing someone.
A toilet is a leu
A restroom is a toilet
A bar is a pub
An apartment is a flat
Firing someone is sacking someone
Mail is post
Wrench is spanner
Sidewalk is pavement
Pavement is road
Road is carriageway

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Bill Phelps
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posted December 07, 2017 06:29 PM

Reel is spool [Smile]

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Paul Adsett
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posted December 07, 2017 06:55 PM

Spool is bobbin! [Big Grin]

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David Hardy
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posted December 08, 2017 03:18 AM

Bobbin is Core. [Big Grin]

Thanks for that list Steve. At least I will know what say and ask for if I ever visit the USA. [Wink]

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Kevin Clark
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posted December 08, 2017 03:53 AM

More U.S. to U.K. comparisons:

Pants = trousers

Lucked out = in luck

The Shag (a dance) - probably best I don't translate that to the UK meaning on here [Big Grin]

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Terry Sills
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posted December 08, 2017 04:11 AM

A fag is a cigarette
Booty is a stash of treasure
Bum is backside
Copper - policeman

There must be hundreds!

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Steve Klare
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posted December 08, 2017 05:00 AM

"Spool" ist "Spule" ...

... aber das richtige Wort ist "Reel"! [Big Grin]

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Mark Todd
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posted December 08, 2017 06:00 AM

I think the American " Fanny Pack " !!! or Bum Bag here makes us wince a little in the UK.

Best Mark.

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Tom Photiou
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posted December 08, 2017 06:29 AM

and gay is happy, or at least it was until the word was hijacked [Big Grin]

a queen is a head of state,
fairy is mythological being
pansy is a flower
puff is a short, explosive burst of breath or wind
Nancy is a girls name

Yes it is comical how the English language has been wrecked by other countries isn't it. [Big Grin]

So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. [Wink]

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Kevin Clark
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posted December 08, 2017 11:22 AM

Tom, your list seems to have something of a recurring theme about it - are you having a bad day by any chance?

Kevin

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Tom Photiou
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posted December 08, 2017 12:07 PM

not at all, they are simply words & there meanings [Wink]

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Brian Fretwell
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posted December 08, 2017 01:54 PM

There meanings or their meanings?

See what happens when we play with words and meanings here!! [Big Grin]

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Paul Adsett
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posted December 08, 2017 02:01 PM

The title of the 1933 Fred Astaire and Ginger Rodgers film ' The Gay Divorcee' unfortunately has a totally different meaning today.

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Tom Photiou
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posted December 08, 2017 02:40 PM

Thats my point Paul, why should we allow anyone, (or group), to change the meaning of words that have been around for years and years [Big Grin]

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Ty Reynolds
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posted December 08, 2017 03:18 PM

Assuming we have the power in the first place to allow or disallow others to change the meanings of words, how do you propose we exercise it?

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Kevin Clark
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posted December 08, 2017 03:29 PM

It's not a case of allowing or disallowing the change of word meanings, it just happens over time and that is how languages develop.

Search on the internet for 'words that have changed in meaning' and you will find literally hundreds of examples, including those already listed, some obvious and others more obscure, but nothing particularly sinister or worth getting upset about.

Another UK / US comparison:

Rubbers in the UK = Erasers in the US
Rubbers in the US = Condoms in the UK

Here's an extreme (please don't be offended) example of different or non meanings between different countries - Robin Williams making use of a UK term that meant nothing rude at all in the US when he knew the meaning of the term in the UK at the time he wrote this Mork & Mindy script:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KtXNz9QVMk

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Tom Photiou
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posted December 08, 2017 03:35 PM

simple, (for me at least) i continue to use words as they were intended and meant, sometimes i get a funny look but then i put them right, in my opinion they are the one with rude minds, but i am using my words with the meaning they we created for, perfect example above with the title of the Astaire move the gay divorcee and forgetting the chc advert reel beer,fags and women [Big Grin]

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Ty Reynolds
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posted December 08, 2017 04:04 PM

Are you sure you are using words according to their original meaning? You wouldn't want to look nice.

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Terry Sills
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posted December 08, 2017 04:28 PM

Tom
Unfortunately you are not a good proponent for English grammar and spelling. I think that we understand your meaning, but your conveyance of the argument is not being held in high esteem by our friends across the pond.
( 'Shakespeare - Longfellow. What goes up the chimney?')
Any guesses?

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Brian Fretwell
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posted December 09, 2017 02:52 AM

I thought the original title for the Astaire/Rogers film was The Gay Divorce and was changed to Divorcee as it wasn't thought good for people to be happy about divorce. If so the original title would be either non PC or very apt today.

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Tom Photiou
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posted December 09, 2017 06:11 AM

ok ok,,

Was that you sitting under the yew looking at the ewe?

why not just say what were you doing under the sheep looking at the tree [Big Grin]

It's just a joke, dont get get upset.

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John Armer
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posted December 09, 2017 10:22 AM

quote:
Yes it is comical how the English language has been wrecked by other countries isn't it. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

The word 'gay' in the carefree sense is actually a corruption of a French word so you could argue that English wrecked the French word too!

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