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Leon Norris
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 - posted August 25, 2019 10:08 AM      Profile for Leon Norris   Email Leon Norris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This is between two eumigs? The models S938 or the S940! Which one is best to have! I would like to know!

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted August 25, 2019 12:00 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Leon,
The 938 and the 940 are mechanically identical except:
The 940 has an electronic digital frame counter, plus a central microprocessor that controls all recording and playback functions, and a better quality f1.2 lens (which does not have the vertical lens shift capability on the 938) . The 938 has two beautiful analog recording meters, whereas the 940 has two rows of green recording light buttons. Both projectors have the same 150 watt lamp and 800ft spool capacity.
Here is the control panel of the S938 (same as 926GL):

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Here is the stunning control panel of the S940:

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I have read that the 940 microprocessor can fail, not available anymore, leaving you with a useless projector. No such processor on the 938, which is therefore probably more reliable.
As you can see, both projectors are stunningly beautiful, with amazing quality stereo sound capability.

[ August 25, 2019, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Paul Adsett ]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted August 25, 2019 02:37 PM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In view of possible troubles with the electronics of the S940, as Paul says, the S938 is a better bet.
The lens is rather unusual as it also controls the height of the picture, thus alleviating a tilt knob.
http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Eumig_S_938_Stereo_Projector

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted August 25, 2019 02:45 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I like that vertical lens shift feature on the 938 Maurice, it's very handy for setting up a show. Eumig were ahead of their time here, but today many digital projectors have adopted this feature known as "lens shift". But I do think it softens the picture a liitle bit, as well as soaking up some light, so I prefer a traditional projection lens design.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Leon Norris
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 - posted August 26, 2019 09:06 AM      Profile for Leon Norris   Email Leon Norris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, The S940 is one nice looking machine! That would be my choice! But we will see?

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Bruno Heughebaert
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 - posted August 26, 2019 11:42 AM      Profile for Bruno Heughebaert   Email Bruno Heughebaert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have both projectors
The 938 is working fine
The 940's processor failed, The sound playback and recording facilities were therefore useless but not the mechanism and the light.
L'atelier de célestin in Paris worked on it and bypassed all the electronics connecting the sound heads directly to a mini pre-amp made by Celestin and installed in the projector.
The pre-amp was linked to two cables ended with rca sockets on the rear panel of the device.
I can now enjoy it again using and external amplifier.

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted August 26, 2019 12:38 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes Leon, the 940 is such a great looking machine that I might be tempted to buy one if it was working,
Bruno, that's a very interesting work around for a failed 940 processor, Great that you can still enjoy playback on this amazing machine,

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted August 26, 2019 12:51 PM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If anyone is interested :

L'Atelier de Célestin
4 rue Sadi Carnot
92120 Montrouge
France

http://beaucitron.com.pagesperso-orange.fr/l27atelier-de-celestin.htm

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted August 26, 2019 05:04 PM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you Dominique!

Doug

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Leon Norris
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 - posted August 27, 2019 10:54 AM      Profile for Leon Norris   Email Leon Norris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, thanks for the info!

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted August 28, 2019 11:15 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I like the tilt knob! Very handy.

I actually don't like that digital readout. LOVE the look (and feel .... ahhh, the feel ... ehem!!), of the 926/938!

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted August 28, 2019 02:13 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I correct my statement above about the lens shift. I said that the shift lens would soak up additional light, but now I do not think that is the case, because that outside lens is actually the large zoom lens objective lens, which would be there anyway. The shift feature just moves this objective lens up and down ( actually in a curved path to keep constant center distance from the other lenses). So I don't think it soaks up any extra light. Does it soften the picture? Maybe, maybe not. It could just be that this lens is just not as good quality as some of the other Eumig large aperture lenses.
Osi, if I ever decide to let go of my 938 you are at the top of the list.

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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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