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Topic: Storing films in the Fridge
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 02, 2005 11:08 AM
Very good question, as I store all my Eastman color stock feature films in the fridge. The important thing is to keep moisture from your films. So, here's wat t do if you choose to store in the fridge :
Use the best zip-lock bags to store your films in, (they do make "Jumbo size" bags too) but make sure that you put a "selica gel" pack in your zip-lock bag. That's one of those things that they put in stuff you buy in order to keep moisture from the item while in shipping. If you go to your local department store, you might be able to convince someone in charge to save them for you, (along with the curious look).
I have noted that snce putting selica-gel packs in with my zip-locked bag films, the moisture stays off really well!
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John Whittle
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Northridge, CA USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 03, 2005 04:22 PM
The best way to do this is the way Eastman does it with rawstock. The materials are "equalized" first in a room with the proper humidity for several days, then packed in bags and placed in cans and taped so the equalized atmosphere is captured in the can.
The cans can then be refrigerated or frozen. Upon removeal, they need to stand for a day to "thaw" to ambiant temp before untaping.
Not a good procedure for release prints, but excellent for long term storage of internegatives, rawstock, etc. Of course with rawstock you only have to observe the thaw cycle.
The bottom line is if the film is starting to turn or is a material that will turn, this will delay the eventual, not prevent it.
Same with VS. You can slow it down, but once it starts, it starts.
John
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted August 03, 2005 11:09 PM
I also have one film with a slight case of VS, it's the Blackhawk full-length release of Charlie Chaplin's THE GOLD RUSH. Won it on eBay in its original box, on 4x400' reels, and when I opened it I got hit in the face by a cloud of vinegar stench! UGHH... but I left the reels in the open to air them out, then treated each one with FilmRenew twice, making sure to store the film in a cool place afterward. Well, it's been there for what must be two months by now, and the vinegar smell is practically not noticeable anymore... I don't expect the VS to have vanished (I know that's impossible) but it does seem that FilmRenew has nipped it in the bud for now. So it's definitely effective - if you apply it generously (by running your film through cleaners 2 or 3 times, or by soaking the print).
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Osi Osgood
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posted August 07, 2005 02:37 PM
Thanks for the info! I'm going to leave this out in the open. I don't know who produced this "Birth of a Nation" print, but it really is the sharpest I've ever seen, on standard 8mm. I know it's not Blackhawk. It's kind of hard to tell with some of these older prints. I have a standard 8mm feature, "The Black Pirate" (Douglas Fairbanks Sr.), and it's very good, not as good as "Birth", but once again, it's not a Blackhawk, and I'll probably never know who put it out.
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Osi Osgood
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posted August 07, 2005 02:37 PM
Thanks for the info! I'm going to leave this out in the open. I don't know who produced this "Birth of a Nation" print, but it really is the sharpest I've ever seen, on standard 8mm. I know it's not Blackhawk. It's kind of hard to tell with some of these older prints. I have a standard 8mm feature, "The Black Pirate" (Douglas Fairbanks Sr.), and it's very good, not as good as "Birth", but once again, it's not a Blackhawk, and I'll probably never know who put it out.
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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