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Kevin Faulkner
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posted November 18, 2005 04:19 PM

Well I did sent you a PM Tom on the 17th about this print you have for sale [Frown]

Kev.

[ November 20, 2005, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Kevin Faulkner ]

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Andreas Eggeling
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posted November 20, 2005 05:11 PM

Here is a scan of the Star Trek IV print in duo-optical-sound....

It is amazing!!!

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted November 20, 2005 06:00 PM

Your right Andreas it is amazing. Just imagine if that optical lens was out of positon slightly......the noise from the sprocket holes would be unbelievable [Frown]

With that technology in place we could have had Stereo Optical sound [Eek!]

They could have done Stereo sound this way on 16mm where there is plenty of room for a second decent size track.

Kev.

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Jan Bister
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posted November 20, 2005 06:21 PM

Why!! Oh, why didn't they!! [Mad]

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Osi Osgood
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posted November 21, 2005 11:01 AM

Your right, that is really interesting!! I guess potential suppliers would have thought that it would be too costly to produce with a relatively small market that would be interested.

But gee, a fella can dream! By the way, if that is a super 8 print that we see the image of, that is a very sharp picture!

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted November 21, 2005 03:14 PM

Yes Super 8 Osi. Only format with a sprocket hole in the centre of the frame. Other formats such as 16mm have the sprocket on the frame line.

Kev.

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Paul Adsett
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posted November 21, 2005 05:39 PM

Amazing photo Andreas! Makes you wonder where super 8 would be today if video had not come along. Judging by your photo we would certainly have had optical stereo dolby sound, possibly even DTS sound. That would have meant a slew of stereo optical sound prints for the home entertainment market, all stocked by Blockbuster of course for rent or sale! On the projector front, xenon arc lighting or HTI lighting (per John Clancy's GS12000) would have been the norm. And films would probably have been rented in 1200ft cassettes as opposed to open reel.
All speculation of course! [Roll Eyes]

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John Clancy
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posted November 22, 2005 03:05 AM

And...

Reduce the picture size to mirror that of modern 35mm and there is then significantly more room for different soundtrack methods. Well, about 1mm more room anyway. 4 track magnetic or 2 track magnetic stereo plus optical mono or DTS or Dolby Digital. Double coat the film with soundstripe and the options increase.

Then there would have been picture quality. Imagine if everything was as good as the Buck Labs prints of El Cid, Fall of the Roman Empire, Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines, Predator and Commando.

What could have been.

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Andreas Eggeling
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posted November 22, 2005 03:50 AM

lol

hmmm, today more and more home entertainment machines come from Asia (China, .....).

If super8 still produced we would get a multiple format projector /cameras for 16mm, unsplited double8, standard8 and super8 With all sound types Paul and John mentioned. Including a CD-ROM facility for DTS the projector will cost only 59 Pounds or about 99 EUR. [Big Grin]

BTW Star Trek IV is still for sale here

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