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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted November 20, 2005 10:17 AM
Spot on Tony, when i was at the BFCC i had a chat with a few people and even the two dealers i spoke to agreed that the 1200HD is the one to own. It performs well, its built well, and is much less reliant on electronics. The GS is a lovely machine but its over the top on engineering. If your an electrician and you have the tools then maybe your ok but mechanics are a lot easier to repair and can often be overcome when original parts arnt availible. Id prefer to have two 1200HD's than GS's.
Lens wise, i'm trying to get a 1.0, at the moment i have a 1.1 wgich is very good, but the chaps on here did say the difference between the two is the difference between day and night, so now im hunting for a 1.0.
BTW, now ive rabbited on the gist of is the HD is ,,, oh balls, just read Tonys bit ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted November 20, 2005 10:53 AM
Let's see...
GS-1200: lots of 'tronics... four separate motors for take-up, rewind, film transport and cooling... 200W lamp and 1.1 lens standard... stereo recording and optical playback, ESS sync option... piano touch controls...
ST-1200HD: twin-track record/playback, stereo possible via external amp... less 'tronics, more mechanics, easier to maintain (I think - have yet to see a GS1200 with my own eyes)... one motor, 150W lamp, 1.3 lens standard... CONSIDERABLY cheaper, I should add ... (except for my 1600ft version, of course, which will cost anyone dearly, and I mean dearly )... rotary knob control, nice and sturdy overall but likes to be maintained and kept clean - not just talking about the film path here but the innards like belts and pulleys. Also has the option of optical playback (M&O models)... if you can live with single-track sound, consider the ST-1200D but don't bother with the early ST-1200 models...
As for my 1200HD, it runs with a Schneider Xenovar 1:1.2 lens, maybe no match for a 1.1 or 1.0 lens but definitely a step up from the standard 1.3 lens, VERY sharp picture without a lot of hassle focusing it. Built-in sound is rather nice with a decent external speaker, too (have yet to try a stereo amp though). ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted November 20, 2005 03:44 PM
Kevin:
I don't remember exactly now but I think the 1.1 lens that Alan Rik got came from me... and I got mine from Ian what's-his-name... (OMG, I can't remember his name...argh). Maybe I'm really remembering it wrong, maybe something else was wrong with my machine at the time that I wasn't aware of. Best to just ignore my previous comment about the Schneider 1.1 lens, certainly I have no intention of putting a dent in its reputation ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Scott:
Well... you seem very interested in my 1600ft mod, maybe I should have it patented All it really is is new, modified reel arms - the rest of the machine remains completely unchanged, with the exception of a necessary take-up clutch adjustment to complement the 2:1 ratio of the take-up arm gears. In other words, you could conceivably put these longer reel arms on a GS1200... and have an uber-projector with up to 2000ft capacity... ![[Cool]](cool.gif) Though I have no idea just how much torque those winding motors are designed to take. (Don't worry, Kevin, I'm just letting my imagination run wild here)
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