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Osi Osgood
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 - posted October 11, 2008 10:01 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Doug,

It would seem that you have most of that short, (Spooks), as the usual Stooge short, as you know, is approximately 2X200!

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Douglas Meltzer
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 - posted October 11, 2008 10:20 AM      Profile for Douglas Meltzer   Email Douglas Meltzer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Osi,

Sorry, I misunderstood. The Stooges 3D shorts were only available in 50'. Columbia did put out a standard depth(!) 200' silent edition of "Spooks" but as far as I know, they never released a 400 footer.

Doug

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Osi Osgood
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 - posted October 11, 2008 02:07 PM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah Doug,

At one time, I had the 200ft 'Spooks', I always wondered why the doctor was pointing that needle right me.

Doug, would you, (or anyone else) know of any 3D films that were made before "Bwana Devil" (I think that was the first "Hollywood release")? I'm betting that there were some experiments in 3D.

... and I'd still love to find a 35MM theatrical print of "Lumberjack Rabbit", I think it's the only chance that we'd have of getting that Bug's Bunny cartoon on Super 8 in 3D. I bet that Derann or CHC (depending on the quality of the print), would jump at releasing that as a short! It would definitely be assured of being a technicolor print and not Eastman, as Warners hadn't moved to Eastman yet.

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Ricky Daniels
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 - posted October 11, 2008 08:43 PM      Profile for Ricky Daniels     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Osi,

Warners "Lumberjack Rabbit" would have been a dual projector print i.e. separate Left and Right prints. I have an IB 16mm copy of (I think) the Left hand print, the channel ID is printed on the countdown leader.

Rick

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Douglas Meltzer
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Osi,

From the program for "World 3-D Film Expo": The first 3D feature was "The Power of Love" (1922). All of the anaglyph prints are believed to be lost. The 1939 World's fair in NY featured "Motor Rhythym", a short 3D film for the Plymouth car company. This was the first time mass audiences saw 3D using polarizng glasses.

Doug

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Osi Osgood
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That's absolutely fascinating Rick ...

I automatically assumed that it would be the red/blue glasses variety of 3D. So, they had competing styles of 3D back in the early fifties?

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Martin Jones
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 - posted October 13, 2008 06:47 AM      Profile for Martin Jones     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Osi,
From your posts I assume you didn't know about the early "two strip" methods? I was the opposite until about 4 years ago; I had never heard of "over and under" until Maurice Leakey put me onto "3D MOVIES. A history and filmography of Stereoscopic Cinema" by R.M.HAYES, published by McFarland Classics in the States. ISBN 0-7864-0578-3. It's an absolutely riveting read, both from the Collector and Technical point of view.
I now have quite a library on the technical aspects of 3-D... see my footnote.

Martin

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Ricky Daniels
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Yeah Osi,

Warner Brothers early 3-D system called 'NaturalVision' utilised 2 prints for the Left and Right images with 2 projectors interlocked to run both images in sync. The images were polarised with opposing filters and overlaid on screen (silver reflective screen). The viewers polarised glasses then only allowed the correct image to be seen by the appropriate eye and voila 3-Dimensions!

Other studios use similar 2 projector systems and this is the best system for full resolution on 35mm as opposed to the over/under and side-by-side systems, although it takes great skill to project successfully. Also these early Warner 3-D films had an intermission around 1 hour into the story to allow for a reel change because the 2 projector change-over systems were being used to project the 2 prints and 6000’ of film was usually the limit!

My very first boss was once the chief at the Warner Brothers theatre in London’s Leicester Square and had many a tale to tell regarding the 3-D engagements of the 50's!

Ricky

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Mike Williamson
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This Halloween I ran 16mm 3D prints of THIRD DIMENSIONAL MURDER and the CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON Universal 8 digest. The audience loved it!

Is there any sort of comprehensive list someone in the know could generate which lists all known 16mm anaglyph 3D prints available? Both full features and shorts...

I'd love to know what to keep an eye out for. Ricky's list of what he owns seems pretty comprehensive, but maybe there's more?

Many thanks.

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Antonis Galanakis
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I have just bought, in one set, for 99.00 UKP (114.00 Euros)

The Mad Magician 400ft
Creature From The Black Lagoon 400ft
It Came From Outer Space 400ft

Mad Magician is from "Columbia Pictures"
Creature and Space are from "Universal 8"

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190286779861&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

I am very happy about it!!!

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