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Topic: Master and Commander Price?
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Mike Peckham
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1461
From: West Sussex, UK.
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 01, 2012 03:34 PM
Hello Winbert and Alan,
Many thanks for your quick responses!
Winbert, yes this is the copy I ordered when the possibility of this being released was first mooted. I ordered it really to help make the possibility a reality, Derann were after so many pre-orders to make the print run viable.
It was despatched to my parents address whilst I was taking a year out to travel and you remember rightly, there was a lot of confusion at the time as my parents were insistant that it hadn't been delivered, when in fact it had!
Anyway, the print was never projected as I have never since had a proper screening area set up.
Alan, thanks for your suggestion of price. My own thoughts were around £450 for an as new, unprojectd copy of this limited run. I want to be fair to both myself and the buyer so it's important to me to get others views on its value.
Thanks again
Mike ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Mike Peckham
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1461
From: West Sussex, UK.
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 02, 2012 03:08 AM
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It's obviously great to be able to buy a brand new sealed print and I wish Mike all the best for a successful transaction. But in such a situation, I think it may be worth agreeing with a buyer what he would be able to do if the print had any faults, as obviously Derann couldn't replace any reels. It wasn't extremely unusual for such a problem to arise and I recall one buyer of M&C mentioning his frustrations on this forum. It was always a big relief for me if every reel of a feature was fine, so if I was buying an unchecked Derann release and there was a 'no returns' policy, I'd be willing to pay considerably less than I would otherwise.
That's a good point and I have to admit, it had occurred to me. In this case, the potential buyer is someone who I think is particularly interested in the film becuse of its "new" status, if I were to run it through the projector it would no longer have that keudos. The trouble is, he lives on the other side of the world, so if it did turn out to have a fault, that's a lot of shipping.
On that basis, I think if we agree a sale, I might suggest that if the film has a fault, he can return it to me for a full refund, less the return shipping. Would that be fair?
Doug, Adrian and Tom, great to be chatting to you too! And Alan, please send my regards to Simba. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Mike
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted July 04, 2012 06:26 AM
Akshay - The marks are certainly typical of Elmos (I've had at least two causing them, despite being new) but I certainly wouldn't say that they apply to all Elmos. In some cases, a projector might cause them, but not with every film. If you have run films in reverse, with the lamp on, you would spot them immediately if your projector was prone to do it, as they are caused by a black plastic part just below the gate. When it happens, you won't see a line, it will be conspicuous slightly curved emulsion marks about a third of the way from the edge of the frame, that don't cover the full height of the frame. Some filing down of the part can eradicate it but I'm afraid I don't know the technique.
A while back, I put a thread here to discuss this design flaw but the responses were along the lines of: "I'd never run my films in reverse" which seemed odd to me because it can't be unusual for people to do it after a quick picture and sound test before a show, or when recording sound on home movies.
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 04, 2012 12:58 PM
Exactly Akshay,sold as seen,or in this case, unseen.Someone
putting this film through their projector and discovering that the
sound is out of sync or maybe none at all,is not going to be
interested in a bit of shrinkwrap and a modest boast of "mint
condition".Run the film and check it,that is common sense.You
own the film and can charge whatever you want,or let people
bid on it.either way,people are not buying a "pig in a poke"
If you want to pursue this "mint print" exercise,be prepared for
trouble if somethings wrong.
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