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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God
Posts: 5468
From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 19, 2012 08:16 AM
Hi Jan,
First, welcome to the forum. You will meet many great people here who are willing to help you should you meet difficulties with your new hobby.
Regarding your question, your first guess is the most of us do that we like handling and watching real film.
Personally, I never think that I am investing money in my collection. I only sell films that multiple title or odd reels.
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the films will, no matter how well you treat them, all eventually and gradually fade.
I believe your statement above will invite many responses from members here that not all films will fade because there are LPP, AGFA film stock that will not fade.
But I agree with you that film WILL fade because I have films printed on LPP and AGFA that is now fade.
Yes, film that has fade will reduce in price especially if a non-fade of the same title exist.
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I do it for the fun of it. For my love of real film And for the beautiful artwork
Same thing for me too... I am doing this for fun and I love beautiful artwork of 8mm. I even made my own artwork when I found film without cover or only housed in a plain box. I will post another thread (with video) about this.
Last if you still ask "why collect" then the same question is also asked to vinyl (LP) collectors why still listen to a song with a lot of noise (pops). The answer is..."it's fun buddy" ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
cheers,
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Hugh Thompson Scott
Film God
Posts: 3063
From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 19, 2012 08:54 AM
Welcome to the forum Jan,I think that Winbert has encapsulated
film collecting there for the majority of folk.Regarding films losing
their value through fading,does it really matter in the long run,
as long as you have enjoyed them and continue to.I myself am
not put off by a faded print of a title I want,eventually they will,
thats the nature of things, so enjoy them while they are here.
As for film boxes etc, there are some members who quite easily could have made a living creating them,our own Winbert, Pat
D'Allessio and Tom Photiou are three names that spring to mind,
the examples shown on this very Forum would grace any display, they could have called themselves "Skills Unlimited".
It's a great hobby Jan which covers the whole spectrum,much
like the members on here, from authors to cameramen to
projectionists etc, there is much to be enjoyed.
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Laksmi Breathwaite
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 771
From: Las Vegas
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 19, 2012 10:27 AM
Hi Jan welcome to the forum and hobby. And thanks for the info Winbert, and Hugh . So Jan you think that your films will not out last you? I don't think so I'm 63 and some of my films still look the same as when I bought them some 30 to 40 years ago some are scratch and fade free. And I collect for fun, pleasure, feeling the film ,the smell,the sound,the reels, projector sounds,and showing at parties. And as Dino would say blowing peoples minds outside at showings . I show at the beach ,forests,mountains,parking lots,on the side of houses, on white walls, auditoriums,and theatres. "Have films will travel". Films are fun is a understatement! Woo! I love to make artwork for missing cases or boxes. Will my films last long ? They will out live me! And can I make money on films ? What titles do you have? I can get double the price I paid for my most famous films ,rarest title,blockbusters etc. If I sell on eBay and I get lucky the right person wants that for there collection they will pay big. And I know many of are members can sell the rarest film for profit. Especially now after the fad has increased by JJ Abrams and Spielberg's movie Super 8. So welcome once again to the hobby,fad or kick, fun, and investment.See ya! 
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Matt McBride
Film Handler
Posts: 62
From: Starkville, MS USA
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted October 19, 2012 12:53 PM
Hi Jan,
I am also new to this forum, though I am not new to film collecting. I actually started with 35mm and I am now just just getting started into 16mm. These guys have definitely hit the nail on the head so I am sure I am not adding anything new. Do not be afraid to dish out for the more expensive stuff if you can, the rewards will definitely pay off in the end. I spent about 2 years collecting the equipment for my 35mm, and even right now I don't have the best sound equipment, mostly home audio equipment and not professional audio, at the moment, but I will tell you the image is remarkable. The same goes for super 8 and 16mm. I agree too it isn't so much as an investment as it's just the excitement of having these films, handling them and projecting them. The film will certainly out last you or me if they are properly taken care of. And yes some will fade, but again the ones printed on the low fade stock(LPP) are not likely to fade if store properly. The biggest concern is the dreaded vinegar syndrome, and I myself have freaked out about this, bur once you read up about it and see the storage requirements, it's really not that bad and sitting inside a moderate climate house doesn't really harm the film. For me, personally running film through a projector to create an image on the screen is something magical. To me it's amazing watching something very mechanical produce an image. I think you'll find that collecting is a very rewarding experience. Sorry for posting on yours as a newbie to the forum, not trying to take away from that.
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 20, 2012 10:33 AM
I have a similar story Laksmi. Back in the early 1950's in the UK, hardly anyone had a TV, and if they did it was usually a 9ins model, sometimes with a big plastic lens on top to make it look bigger! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) So about that time I aquired my first ever movie projector, the ubiquitous 9.5MM Pathescope ACE. I ran a long power cord from the back room of the house to the shed at the back of the garden, and inside the shed I had a 30 ins glass beaded screen attached to the wall. Here I would crank 30, 60, and 300ft reels from the Pathescope film library to the enchantment of the local kids, who had never seen anything like it before, except of course at the cinema. Popeyes, Mickey Mouse, old British Hitchcock's, like Blackmail and The Ring, German classics like White Hell of Pitz Palu, Hal Roach comedies like It's A Gift with Snub Pollard, newsreels, travelogues, you name it - Pathe had them all. I charged the kids 6 pence per show, and that payed for the weekend rental of the films from the town photo shop. Happy days indeed, when kids could really appreciate the simple pleasures of life in a much less complex world.
I still have the ACE, and it looks and runs like new. Even today, when I have super 8 stereo and a library of color features, running 9.5mm films on the little Ace still gives me great pleaure. Just like an old friend. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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