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Jeff Missinne
Film Handler

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From: Superior, WI USA
Registered: Nov 2012

posted December 18, 2012 11:23 PM

I think the length of a cut-down is less important than how well it was edited. Castle's 200' (400' in 16mm) ROCKET AND ROLL with Abbott and Costello took a mediocre feature (A & C Go To Mars) and turned it into a fast and funny short, eliminating the sub-plots and making use of all the best gags. [Big Grin]

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Brad Kimball
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From: Highland Mills, NY USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 19, 2012 10:42 AM

I agree, Jeff. Some 200'ers (especially the Castle films titles) were edited superbly for only about 170' or so. It's just a damned shame that when Universal assumed sole ownership of Castle the quality of their 400'ers, for the most part, was crap. Obviously the same editing crew that did the Castle catalog wasn't the crew churning out the 400'ers later on for U-8. Most of them are incoherent and the scenes are put together like an extended trailer that runs for 17 minutes. I have them all (save for a few) and I don't love any of them. I just have them because there's nostalgic memories connected to them.

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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012

posted December 19, 2012 11:47 AM

I have to disagree there Brad,take for example "High Plains
Drifter",the Castle release was bad,legend has it that Eastwood
saw it and wouldn't let them put his films on S/8.The U8 edit
was a coherent job that explained the film perfectly, and a really
top notch print. U8s realease of the "Invisible Man" was a nicely
edited cutdown with again exemplary picture quality.The majority of the Castle films were usually well done,but not all.
That isn't to say U8s releases were all great,but films like "Jaws",
"The Hindenberg","Charlie Varrick" were streets in front of stuff
like "Nude Bomb" and the"Incredible Shrinking Woman"

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Tony Stucchio
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 625
From: New Jersey
Registered: Dec 2005

posted December 19, 2012 05:15 PM

A&C MEET DR.JEKYLL & MR. HYDE 200 foot version is another great cut-down, since there were only about 10 minutes of worthwhile footage in the full picture. Most of the A&C 200 footers are disappointing since they focused on the chase scenes, which was not the essence of A&C.

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Marshall Crist
Master Film Handler

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From: San Pedro, CA USA
Registered: Oct 2008

posted December 19, 2012 06:50 PM

Based on what I know of it, I would say that the Universal 8 400'er of THEM MUMMY'S TOMB is pretty much perfect. Helps that the movie was only an hour to begin with. Wish they'd expanded MAN MADE MONSTER similarly.

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