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Maurice Leakey
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posted October 16, 2013 11:44 AM

Just bought a Universal 8 200' from eBay which the seller described as "New and sealed". Indeed, the picture does appear to show some shrink wrap around the box.
Were new Universal 8 films sealed in their boxes, or has this been done at a later date to encourage a sale?

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Osi Osgood
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posted October 16, 2013 12:17 PM

That sometimes happens Maurice, (re-wrapping) to make it seem "new". Usually, original shrink wrap, after these 30 years, will show some wear, perhaps a little yellowing, in fact.

Does it show this?

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Michael O'Regan
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posted October 16, 2013 12:52 PM

Maurice,

Of course, I can't vouch for the specific film you bought, but I have seen some Castle cutdowns in a market in London which were sealed. They didn't appear to have been sealed recently.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted October 16, 2013 02:02 PM

Sorry, friends, to repeat myself, do you know if the original boxes would have been wrapped in cellophane by Universal?

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Michael O'Regan
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posted October 16, 2013 02:11 PM

Maurice,

I'm saying that it's possible as it seems that some Castle boxes were.

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Jim Schrader
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posted October 16, 2013 05:11 PM

The ones I ordered from them were.

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Mark Todd
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posted October 16, 2013 05:17 PM

Yes they were origionally, Derann often had odd new sealed ones on thier lists. I used to buy the odd ones for test loops from here and there, or short runs as better to have the soundtrack on when running them to see exactly where any marks, if any, are getting. Not so good with silent.

All the new sealed ones I had all seemed to be wrapped in the same fashion and material.

Best Mark.

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Jonathan Trevithick
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posted October 16, 2013 07:43 PM

Yes Maurice,I have had a few Universal 8s which were sealed and did not even have their labels stuck on. They were still inside their boxes. I also remember getting The Sting at a Derann Open Day in the 90s and that was sealed.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted October 16, 2013 08:02 PM

I saw literally stacks of news ones at Derann Open Days in the 1980s, and one or two other shops, and they were always sealed.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted October 17, 2013 02:56 AM

Thanks for all the comments. According to the eBay seller my film has now been posted so I will report back later when it arrives.

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Joe Caruso
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posted October 17, 2013 08:33 AM

Cellophane, not shrink-wrapped, that latter device hadn't come into its own till the 80's - Anything before that was cellophane-sealed, slightly loose, but not airtight - Shorty

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted October 17, 2013 08:35 AM

On the same subject, but MGM digests were these shrink wrap? Sure the ones I bought were not, they had a sticker to stop you opening the box.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted October 18, 2013 03:30 AM

The film has arrived, Universal 8 2511, Inspector Willoughby in "Rough and Tumbleweed". The shrink-wrap was the original which was yellowing slightly, it certainly had not been re-wrapped.

The film was actually a Castle print, in Eastmancolor with a date code of 1976. Colour quite reasonable. The film was still taped down, inside was a sticker to fix to the outside of the plastic case, plus a pre-paid card to send to Universal 8 Film in New York, "Yes, I would like to receive your free film magazine, packed with inside movie insights and upcoming product".

I guess I'm a little too late to take advantage of this offer.

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Jim Schrader
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posted November 11, 2013 09:05 PM

be careful when bidding on those kind of items these machines make it easy for one to make it look new, http://www.uline.com/Grp_50/Shrink-Tools-Equipment?keywords=shrink+wrap+machine

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