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Barry Webb
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From: Cornwall, England.UK
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 - posted September 18, 2015 05:56 AM      Profile for Barry Webb   Email Barry Webb   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi I have a sankyo 600 that has no motor in forward and reverse but the lamp comes on ok.
I have tested the two motor micro switches and both seem to be good.
That leads me to the motor also tested good.
So it looks like it could be the speed controller board any ideas on that board possible fix.
Barry.

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Steve Carter
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 - posted September 18, 2015 06:23 AM      Profile for Steve Carter     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Barry those micro's can test OK, but can still be faulty, I replaced mine on the DCT and it runs OK now...

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Barry Webb
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 - posted September 18, 2015 11:55 AM      Profile for Barry Webb   Email Barry Webb   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Steve but both forward and reverse micros give as new readings and motor is fine that's why I think I maybe the speed control board playing up.
There is no intermittent drive and only lamp is getting power.
Also the transformer is working fine.

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Janice Glesser
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 - posted September 18, 2015 12:01 PM      Profile for Janice Glesser   Email Janice Glesser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There's a transistor connected to the speed board located behind a heavy heat-sink plate. This may have gone bad also.

[ September 18, 2015, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: Janice Glesser ]

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Steve Klare
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 - posted September 18, 2015 12:36 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The whole thing is where the voltage stops along the way to the motor: that's where the problem is.

The catch is gaining access to the conductors to measure the voltages can be tricky.

As far as the micro switches go, I'd be more suspicious of them if the motor ran one direction and not the other. There are different contacts within them for forward and reverse.

-but!

Murphy's Law dictates if something can go wrong, it will go wrong. So even if the probability is only tiny it is the switches at fault, you can't dismiss it entirely!

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Barry Webb
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 - posted September 19, 2015 06:52 AM      Profile for Barry Webb   Email Barry Webb   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Janice tested the transistor and its bad will pop out and pick one up later and report back.

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Barry Webb
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 - posted September 26, 2015 07:25 AM      Profile for Barry Webb   Email Barry Webb   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well after a wait for the correct transistor I fitted it and still no go.

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Janice Glesser
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Thanks for the update Barry. Now it gets tricky. As Steve has already pointed out locating where the power stream is disrupted can be challenging. Please keep us posted on any progress. The Sankyo 600 is basicially a good machine and several people on the forum including myself have one...or two [Smile] From what you have done already sounds like you are pretty comfortable around a voltmeter and soldering iron [Smile] , so any feedback on your troubleshooting is very much appreciated.

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Steve Carter
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Barry does that transistor screw into the heat-sink, if so some thermal paste is used and make sure it's tight, i've had transistors that fail because they are not tight on the heat-sink. I still think it's the micro's...

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Steve Klare
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 - posted September 26, 2015 09:09 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Barry,

Do you have some kind of voltmeter there?

If you measure the voltage from collector to emitter on your new transistor we may be able to learn a lot about what's going on. (These should be two easily accessed measurement points.)

You can think of the transistor as kind of a valve that controls how much current flows through the motor. If there's never any voltage, something is probably disconnected. If it's always all the voltage, the motor controller isn't telling it to let current flow through the motor. The voltage at 18FPS should be more than the voltage at 24FPS.

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