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Ricky Daniels
Jedi Master Film Handler

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posted September 09, 2016 03:06 AM

Great idea if you are projecting already 'hard matted' prints but the additional appature would need to be placed close in proximity to the plane of focus or you'll just get a blurry top n bottom to the projected image.

Also unless you are 100% sure of the printing method of your film you could get in a right mess... e.g. adding a 16:9 Matt to an original non 'shoot and protected' academy ratio print would crop important image information. Same goes for full frame 'centre cutout' printing of 'widescreen' matted sources (1.66:1 to 1.85:1) where the edges are already cropped off in the optical printing... additional matting would be ludicrous!

So a great idea provided it's mounted close to the plane of focus and you know the printing and composition path of your intended material for projection.

Unless I'm mistaken I'm sure the 708EL stereo machine I once owned already had variable top/bottom matting built in!?

Best,
Rick

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted September 09, 2016 03:49 AM

I don't know about that Ricky??? [Confused]

Can't say I've seen variable built in top and bottom matting on any of these??????

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Brian Fretwell
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posted September 09, 2016 05:50 AM

Ricky you put "Also unless you are 100% sure of the printing method of your film you could get in a right mess... e.g. adding a 16:9 Matt to an original non 'shoot and protected' academy ratio print would crop important image information. Same goes for full frame 'centre cutout' printing of 'widescreen' matted sources (1.66:1 to 1.85:1) where the edges are already cropped off in the optical printing... additional matting would be ludicrous!"

You didn't see the first Carlton DVD of "Carry on Camping" then. They did that to get "original screen ratio" despite the picture content being nothing like it - rightfully derided by fans on the DVD forum.

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Ricky Daniels
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posted September 10, 2016 05:25 AM

Brian,

That doesn't surprise me at all!

In all my years at ITV as a Senior Telecine Colourist the understanding of Theatrical Aspect Ratios by anyone non technical and client facing was appalling... Had that title come my way there would have been no issues, but sorry to say some channels occassionally used inferior external facilities for financial reasons. You get what you pay for essentially [Wink]

Best,
Rick

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Brian Fretwell
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posted September 10, 2016 09:31 AM

The really funny thing was that when they released a Carry on partwork with DVDs that film was with the first issue - correct picture content and ration for £1.99!!! I bought that quickly, but kept the original for the documentary on it>

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