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Osi Osgood
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posted April 19, 2017 12:35 PM

Did Derann films ever release this classic Warner Brothers Cartoon?

I already have this print on super 8 with pretty good color, but it's not up to Derann's standardas and I'm betting, not a Derann print, but if Derann actually released this, either themselves or an ex-Red Fox negative, I'd LOVE to get it, espeially if it would be up to "Gruesome Twosomes" quality. [Smile]

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Steve Klare
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posted April 19, 2017 12:41 PM

Yes, they did!

I got one brand new as a Christmas present roughly 2003.

It isn't a spectacular print: the colors are kind of muted, sharpness is good, sound is fine. Its just not one that leaps off the screen at you like many others do.

This is from their old website:

14. CORNY CONCERTO Spoof of Fantasia 1 x 200ft. Col Price code E

What I regretted in the Derann Bugs releases was the amazing shortage of Fudd. They were very rich in Yosemite Sam, which means that they were from the later era when Elmer had been abused by Bugs so much they allowed him to semi-retire and brought in Sam to take the rougher treatment.

It seems Elmer was so pathetic that the audiences actually started to feel sorry for him. Solution? Find somebody more on the reprehensible side!

-Who couldn't feel a twinge of satisfaction watching Yosemite Sam fall 5,000 feet off a cliff? He was every loud-mouthed dirtbag we've ever met rolled into one!

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Jason Smith
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posted April 19, 2017 05:30 PM

I have to agree with Steve. I also have the Derann release and while the sharpness and sound is great,the colors do not leap off the screen.

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Steve Klare
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posted April 19, 2017 06:04 PM

-kind of a shame: it is one of the great Bugs Bunnies.

I have one classic "I DEMAND YOU SHOOT ME NOW!" style of Bugs cartoon with Bugs, Daffy and Elmer (Rabbit Fire), and it is Red Fox.

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Brian Fretwell
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posted April 19, 2017 06:28 PM

That one sounds like "Rabbit Seasoning".
Unfortunately my copy of a Corny Concerto is an earlier one marked Print by Cine Magnetics produced by De Maio and on SP so a bit pink now.

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Joe Balitzki
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posted April 20, 2017 10:36 AM

If I remember correctly, Canterbury Films released "Corny Concerto" from a 35mm Technicolor print. So if any prints were struck on low-fade stock they would have vibrant color. And they frequently had Cine Magnetics make their prints so the quality would be excellent.

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Steve Klare
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posted April 20, 2017 10:46 AM

"Rabbit Fire" is this one:

"Wabbit Wecipes"!

-the result of this exchange is we find out Elmer is actually a vegetarian!

I call it "SHOOT ME NOW!" style because it is one of a trilogy where Daffy spends the whole cartoon trying to get Elmer to shoot bugs. (-and after all: what are friends for?!)

I have to ask: in the history of animation has there ever been a well adjusted duck? I see ducks on the local waterways all the time and they seem content enough, but on celluloid you have Donald, and Daffy...both skwewwy!

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 20, 2017 11:54 AM

Joe ...

That's wonderful to hear! I'll look for either a cinemagnetics or a Canterbury print of the cartoon! To have one directly taken from a 35MM master would look great!

Thanks for the info.

Yep! Rabbit Seasoning is CLASSIC! Another of the great trilogy is "Rabbit Fire"

... anyone for tennis?!

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Steve Klare
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posted April 20, 2017 12:47 PM

"....nice stherve!" [Wink]

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 21, 2017 11:22 AM

I just got another copy in the mail yesterday, a "Cine-magnetics" copy and while the color is OK, (Probably the same as my other print, but I've got to dig it out), it's not quite as sharp as I'd like.

The other film on the reel, however, is a real keeper! It's a "Reel Images" (the old company) low fade print of "Falling Hare", extremely sharp with great color!

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Steve Klare
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posted April 21, 2017 11:37 AM

You're lucky!

My Falling Hare is pretty faded. It's one of those rare cases where I like the cartoon enough I keep it.

Steve Osborne just sent me a Bugs Bunny short where he's telling theatrical audiences how to behave at the movies. Daffy gets to be the bad example...(as always.). Elmer stuffs him in the garbage on the way out.

The catch? It is German language and my German is still at the elementary level. (ask me again in about two years...)

[ April 21, 2017, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Steve Klare ]

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Osi Osgood
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posted April 21, 2017 12:30 PM

that's really curious!

Is it one of those newer shorts released in the 90's or so? I don't remember one like that. [Smile]

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Steve Klare
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posted April 21, 2017 12:46 PM

Yes,

I wouldn't say it's CGI, but it certainly isn't Classic Era either.

They got the voices pretty close, it's the words coming out that are kind of a challenge!

(Don't blame Steve Osborne: I asked for this!)

My son watches the new Bugs Bunny shorts on cable. They are very different. Bugs no longer lives in a rabbit hole, but in a ranch house in a suburban neighborhood. Daffy is his freeloading housemate and Yosemite Sam is their neighbor. (-Like I can imagine Yosemite Sam paying a mortgage!). The little old lady and Tweetie and Sylvester are nearby too.

Bugs has a girlfriend and I seem to recall an episode about how boring it is to go clothes shopping with her! (Shopping?!! Where's the explosives, where's the thousand foot cliff, where's Elmer and his shotgun?!!!)

The humor is very dry and there isn't a great deal of cartoon violence: it's kind of like they crossed Loonie Tunes and Seinfeld.

-Daffy gets to be George Costanza.

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Joe Balitzki
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posted April 22, 2017 10:30 AM

Osi,

CineMagnetics has always meant great lab work, but it can only be as good as the pre-print used or the printing stock used. Now if only say, Ken Films had used them for their digests... One lab that Ken/MGM used was Maritz Lab and they far too often made prints with lousy color or focus drifting in and out. You want a Canterbury release printed by CineMagnetics but I don't know how common the print is nor if when they released it LPP stock was being used. I wish I had kept the printed catalog listings for them!

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