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Tom Photiou
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I mentioned in another thread that i will listing a film on ebay at the weekend. My Brother thinks i'm going ahead with the sale of my copy of Texas chainsaw, the iver 4 x 400ft version, the problem is i just dont know weather to or not. We are on a money raising expedition for Blackpool in 2018 but my Wife has just reminded me that this was my first ever super 8 purchase. i think if i do this it will be one of those things i regret, yet we have it on shiny disc and can project. What a dilemma! [Confused]

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Melvin England
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You might have it on a shiny disc........ but wouldn't you prefer it on a silver screen?

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Tom Photiou
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Thats the thing Melvin, i know it will raise some good cash but like all our films once its gone its gone. This , (i think), is a title that will lose its impact on disc even its its projected. I'm going to have to hang onto it for a few more years i think.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Don't sell it Tom. You'd only regret it sometime in the future.
Even more so as it has some sentimental added value to you being your first film. [Wink]

The money for Blackpool 2018 can be found in other ways no doubt.

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Tom Photiou
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I think wifey isn't letting me sell this one. She's even offered to watch it with me but, (she gets a bit terrified at horror films), i wont let her do that. [Big Grin]
Thing is, i get stupid ideas in my head, but then i have just looked at an old post, i think the term is, "selling off the gold and silver". At mid 50s now i guess i may as well hang on until i really have no alternative.

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Melvin England
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Tom - Much as I am looking forward to Blackpool 2017, I cannot WAIT to see what 2018 will have in store! I have never known anybody prepare so far in advance for the event. Boy! You sound as if you are REALLY going to go for it! Hope I will see you there!

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Andrew Woodcock
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Toms house, car, chicken farm and overseas estates are up for sale in March 2018 I believe. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Wink]

I am not sure he has informed his lovely lady wife of this fact yet though. [Big Grin]

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Melvin England
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What I suggest,Tom, is when you return from Florida this year, just drop your cases, grab your guitar, jump on the next train to Blackpool, and by my estimation that will be about..... let's see.... perhaps 350 busking days available before your big day! Should make enough for a ruck sack full of features!!

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[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Tom Photiou
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[Big Grin] Certainly looking forward to seeing everyone there that attends. My wife tells people that if she ever goes missing they are to look on ebay as she says i will even sell her to make dosh for films. I just get these scilly ideas along with my brother, he keeps threatening to sell his star wars film but i keep talking him out of it. The reality is for him is simply the fact we only view it once around every 2/3 years. I know thats irrelevant really but i think we just over think stuff [Wink]

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Andrew Woodcock
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I'd say star wars might be a different kettle of fish Tom, especially if your brother would like deep down to cash in on it.

Why?

Well simply because from what i have picked up on from yourself, you are of a similar mindset to myself regarding this particular film where you like it, but not necessarily any more than many others you have or would like a chance of getting.

Star Wars consistently seems to bring in the big bucks if it is a quality unscathed Derann copy, so to other collectors, they would value this particular print way beyond what your brother and perhaps yourself may do?

It is also the type of film where you could realistically set a very high reserve price without being hard faced.

Nobody would see this as being anything other than a sensible move if you did decide to part with it and of course your brother or yourself may be able to enjoy the rewards it would undoubtedly bring, by putting the funds into many more items than just one film.

I can honestly say that as much as I love super 8mm film and as much as I'd like a print of star wars, if I had one, it would probably be one of the few prints i would like to cash in on, simply because I don't like it enough to be sat on £1000 or more with it.

If another collector does and they are prepared to pay the going rate these days, they would be welcome to it from me.

Show it once more, capture every second of it using a digital camera in video mode, use the captures as stills to help you sell it and whenever you find yourself getting withdrawal symptoms every 2 or 3 years, throw the digital file through your VP and count the money you got for it! [Big Grin] [Wink]

The withdrawal symptoms may just become a whole lot easier to live with. [Big Grin]

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Tom Photiou
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Melvin, you do have some very good points there, yes it is a good film but its not a great film, Texas chainsaw also isn't a great film but looking at the history of my own print it is, as the wife says, my first ever brand new feature. It was also made possible by an interest free loan from my Granddad, so it is also another memory which at the time of thinking about parting with this didn't enter my thoughts.

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Douglas Meltzer
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Tom,

I feel the same way about a few prints in my collection. I brought one Derann feature for the sole purpose of watching it with my father....I can't see selling that one.

Doug

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Tom Photiou
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Doug, i have just done a similar thing with a 16mm print of blue thunder. My mum took me to see a special pre release showing when it came out in 1983. When isaw that Dave guest had a copy i had to get it for my mum to see.hopeing its here today but ill never sell it on.

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Jason Patnode
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New here. But thought I would throw in my two cents. Don't sell it. Seems a shame to part with with it considering the history.

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Tom Photiou
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Hi Jason, welcome to the forum,
i have held onto it now for the time being. The more i think about this film and how i bought it, and the fact it was my very first brand new feature,(i didn't buy many features brand new), i just couldn't part with it. [Wink]

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Alan Rik
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Thats a good idea. Just the sentimental value of it. Even if you get another copy in the future..it won't be THAT copy. The emotions behind that copy make it special. My first digest was "Enter the Dragon" 400fter. My Chinon ate it up. Its starting to lose its definition..the color is good though! Yet I love it because I remember playing it so many times...friends came over, no one had a VCR, and we watched it to death. Paid for it with Paperboy money. That will never be sold.

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Tom Photiou
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i lost count how times i showed this film and fortunately it is still in great shape, no lines at all, just the earliest signs of fade. i was 17 and in my second year of work. Once the word got around that i had this film in a feature format friends told friends and at one point it was being shown to audiences of between two and 10, at least 3 / 4 times a week for a month or two. It was a great time in my collecting days of years back. When some people had to leave half way though because it was too much, (usually for the ladies), i always raised a proud smile. I know that sounds sadistic, but this was my home cinema. Just to give the film a little more shock impact i got the audience ready with a very false sense of calm by starting with a tom & Jerry cartoon.
They soon stopped laughing as this one was put through Brothers Eumig 810D and at the end i kept a dark room and silence for a few seconds, then immediately started up the 1200HD with TCSM's Bryanston Pictures intro. It worked very well, i could see the ladies of the audience move a tad closer to there boyfriends. [Wink]

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Alan Rik
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I was showing the 3 x 400ft cut down of the "Exorcist" to a female friend of mine. As soon as the possession scene started she left the room. Followed by her English Bulldog! Ha ha! i know what you mean.. I felt a little victorious for some reason too. [Smile]

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Tom Photiou
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See what impact a good old super 8 film can have. [Wink]

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Andrew Woodcock
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Our earliest films in our collections always command a very special place in our hearts.

I don't have any of my original prints now as I sold them all job lot back to Derann in the mid 90's, but even the copies I have since found hold a special fondness by me due to the memories I have from first seeing them all originally, just as Alan says, well before the advent of the VCR.

I'd never part with any of these types of prints now. I consider that I have learned my lessons now from mistakes I made previously acting hastily while now all for equipment and technology which I purchased with the proceeds back then,has now been superseded many times over since.

Only film and vinyl so far from anything I ever purchased in the entertainment field has ever even remotely held onto its value both monetarily as well as from a passionate and long term interest point of view.

I've never entirely understood why the tactile medium itself makes all of the difference to our interest levels, except to say that it most definitely does, whatever the reasons.

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