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Topic: Disney's SLEEPING BEAUTY on Ebay

Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 03, 2010 07:02 AM

Sleeping Beauty

It could be helpful to someone after this living in UK.

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Jeroen van Ooijen
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posted January 03, 2010 08:09 AM

Ah ah ah,you know i want this one,but i don't trust
it,because the price,my disaster 2 years ago with Beauty and the beast i'll never forget.
35 pounds.......nah not a good begin. [Roll Eyes]

And he doesn't say it's an Derann,if you sell something you must say it's an Derann,maby it's an handler [Big Grin]

Ok these are the nono's

[Wink]

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 04, 2010 06:00 AM

I have contacted him asking for pictures of the reel during projection, so that I can see how good the colour is [Smile]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 04, 2010 06:04 AM

Will you be so kind to post them, Christian, when available? Thanks a lot.

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 04, 2010 06:40 AM

Of course I will, Gian, if he sends me any.

Should I expect a bidding war? [Smile]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 04, 2010 06:52 AM

Well, it's a scope print and it's not so usual to find a used copy of Disney's SLEEPING BEAUTY for sale.

I think it depends on the pictures the seller will supply. As already stated, the starting price is extremely low. And as Jeroen has written in another post, there could be something suspicious (I'm simply referring to quality).

Let's say all could happen. But let's wait for the screen shots, before presupposing [Wink]

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 04, 2010 08:21 AM

If it's a scope print then I'll pass, because I don't have a scope lens nor can I afford one [Frown]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 04, 2010 08:26 AM

Christian, ask the seller. SLEEPING BEAUTY issued by Derann is in scope. He does not mention if the print is a Derann, but I'm sure it is.

My opinion, if the price won't get higher and the condition is fair/good, is to buy it. It's worth it. You will find a good lens, one day. You won't be a 'poor student' for the rest of your life [Big Grin]

, will you? Just kidding, now.

Anamorphic lenses are sometimes listed on Ebay at very low prices.

Once more, it all depends on the condition of the print, but it won't be so easy to find another copy sold for such a low price.
It's up on you, anyway [Wink]

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Here's a couple of screen captures I've taken right now with my mobile using my ELMO ST and a SANKOR 16C scope lens just to show you the quality of the print:

[ January 04, 2010, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: Gian Luca Mario Loncrini ]

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 04, 2010 04:03 PM

Gian, I just recieved a reply from the seller, and he couldnt supply pictures as he doesnt have a projector. According to him it was in "near mint" condition the last time he had it projected.

I have asked him to supply pictures or info of the actual reel, so I'll wait for another reply until I make a bid.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 04, 2010 04:07 PM

NEAR MINT at £35,00? This seems to be a genuine bergain!
Well, no pictures... But considering the price, once more I do believe it's worth it.

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Jeroen van Ooijen
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posted January 04, 2010 04:59 PM

but not higher then 50 because i don't trust it. [Big Grin]

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Graham Sinden
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posted January 04, 2010 04:59 PM

The fact that its not in its proper box may put off many people bidding so the price might still stay low, mabye only geting to £60 who knows.

Graham S

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 04, 2010 05:04 PM

To the final winner: I have in case the original artwork by Derann (not a copy) to supply for free [Wink]

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 04, 2010 05:05 PM

That would be great, Gian! Hopefully I'll make my bid once I get some more info from the seller [Smile]

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 05, 2010 03:31 PM

I recieved a reply from him now, he didn't have pictures, but said the colour was pretty good, had two splices in total, and was in perfect condition otherwise.

Once he opens the auction for non-UK buyers, I will make my bid [Smile]

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 05, 2010 03:44 PM

I've noticed the auction is still limited to UK. Hope he will, at least for other potential buyers who could be interested in it. Fingers crossed [Wink]

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Keith Ashfield
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posted January 06, 2010 03:30 AM

I think it would help if the sellers' description was corrected, gramatically from -

quote:
3x600ft reels not mint but average condition colour good sond super 8mm

TO -

"3x600ft reels. Not mint, but average condition colour, good sound. Super 8mm".

I think then the condition of the film is not so "ambiguous".

The fact that he has mentioned two splices probably indicates that the film has been mounted on larger spools, possibly 240m, at some time.

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 06, 2010 03:50 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought aswell.

According to the seller, he bought it in a job lot, but remembers seeing it projected by the seller, which is why he says the colour is good.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 06, 2010 06:53 AM

In replying to my question. the seller says that the color starts warming.

quote:
....warm just starts sleeping beauty thats why low price no projector

cheers,

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 06, 2010 07:18 AM

Could it be, if on Agfa? So weird. I mean, this must be a 'very old' print. But I personally think it is a little strange anyway. Bad storage?

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 06, 2010 07:19 AM

Who knows... [Razz]

Hopefully he'll open it up so I can bid, and if I should be lucky enough to win it I'll make a full review once I get it.

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 06, 2010 07:29 AM

Good idea. I'm now a little curious about this copy. Never heard about a Disney's issued by Derann warming.

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 06, 2010 07:41 AM

The question here is if it's really a Derann print. Is there anyway of telling this?

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Gian Luca Mario Loncrini
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posted January 06, 2010 07:52 AM

The Derann edition is not the only one available, that's true.

Some unauthorized Italian prints exist, but they were issued on 4/5*600ft, acetate stock, and supplied in nice boxes with artwork in early 80's. NO OTHERS EXIST.

I'm sure the print we are discussing about is a Derann. And I'm sure the seller was just a little bit confused in his 'ambiguous' description, as our Keith has suggested.

The following links refer to a couple of auctions for the Italian edition of this Classic on 8mm; one of them was sold some days ago on Ebay, just to give you an idea:

Sleeping Beauty (Italian Edition)

Sleeping Beauty (Italian Edition - Auction 2)

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Christian Bjorgen
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posted January 06, 2010 08:07 AM

Why would the Italian version be 600 feet longer? [Razz]

For all we know it could be an old cine version of some sort, only time will tell.

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