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Topic: f/s super 8 DERANN and CHC !!!
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 29, 2012 07:39 AM
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Ah, but if prices are listed with the titles buyers aren't going to tell the sellers "no thanks the price is not my range
As I don't mean to expand the debate, I can say that I am with you with the price listed on every sale price (and Stefano later did this in this thread btw). In fact this one was also a hot debate which was strayed by Mike O' Regan's suggestion to list the price. If you opened that thread, I was in the front line to encourage that and to support Mike's idea.
But still when the price is listed, many buyers do not give a reply when he/she found another terms of sale is not as the buyer expactation, eg color apparently has faded, shipping is apparently high, some splices, or the most always taking place:
When the buyer offers to lower the price and replied by the seller "no the price is firm" or "I can lower the price to $xxx not to the amount you asked"....... very litlle buyer will reply "Ok then, no thanks".
Honestly I am right, am not I?
-------------------- Winbert
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 29, 2012 08:11 AM
Winbert,in my case I am still the new kid on the block regarding computers,in the days of yore,before you were born,people used to write letters,I myself was an avid letter writer,mainly to 8mm distributors, badgering and imploring for a couple of films which I myself loved and was certain would be good sellers, to be given release, and it came to pass,they were put out on 8mm and did sell well.The point is that those people took the time to reply to me,even Hammer Films! I was just an enthusiastic collector,but they responded to my queries.Likewise with private sales, people replied.That was in 1970.Today,we have the internet,mobile phones etc, replies are so simple on this very forum with pictograms, one click does the trick .People are in the main lazy and all this techno crap is making them worse,reclliner chairs,remote controls.In my day you got off your arse and changed the channel! I still side with Joe and Pat on this issue,I myself haven't sent any enquiries in to Stefano,but I am still smarting from the slipshod treatment I have received lately from an advertiser,who after an inordinately long period still hadn't got around to despatching my order.If you have something to sell,then at least tell people if it's there or gone, Joe & Pat have SIXTY YEARS of experience in sales between them to draw on, and I for one respect that and it's time you did.
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 30, 2012 09:03 AM
quote: before you were born,people used to write letters,I myself was an avid letter writer,mainly to 8mm distributors, badgering and imploring for a couple of films which I myself loved and was certain would be good sellers, to be given release, and it came to pass,they were put out on 8mm and did sell well.The point is that those people took the time to reply to me,even Hammer Films!
Hugh, during your old days, what happen if your letter was delivered to different mail box? Will you still get a reply ? NO!
No one would read your letter hence no reply.
This reason was also listed within my 7 reasons, that in this internet world an email can also be delivered to different mail box or junk folder due to the spam filter or the seller received many mails almost the same time or same subject (i.e there are too many emails with "8mm" on the subject or mail box full or etc, etc.
Will you still classify the seller is being lazy to reply if in fact he did not read nor receive the email.
Look at from that side and we will live more freely.
Cheers, [ July 30, 2012, 02:03 PM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]
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Hugh Thompson Scott
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From: Gt. Clifton,Cumbria,England
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posted August 06, 2012 03:32 AM
Hi Winbert,I take the point on what you are saying regarding the shortfalls of E-mail and postal services,but back in those heady days,misdirection of mail was something that occurred only if a letter or package was wrongly addressed to start with,as with E-mail if a word is misspellt.I can honestly say that any enquiries that were sent out,and there were many,I can't recall any of the companies not responding as a prepaid envelope was always enclosed.In this so called computer age where the myth is that everything is faster and better,things were actuaaly faster over forty years ago,in the UK,we had two letter posts per day plus parcel post.A letter could be sent across London in the morning and a reply back that day because of the recently discontinued underground postal railway.I myself have sent for a film on a Thursday dinnertime and had it delivered on a Saturday morning,something I think would be hard to replicate today. Remember,these companies built businesses on a postal service and being prompt was the name of the game,especially where film hire was concerned, that coupled with the best postal service in the world,led to happy customers.
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Winbert Hutahaean
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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
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posted August 06, 2012 07:42 AM
Joe honestly I don't understand what you mean. If you carefully see the date I posted above was 7 days ago when the pot was still boiling. quote: posted July 30, 2012 09:03 AM
It is Hugh who replied today. So do you think I was stirring the pot?
Joe Baltizki, please next time be careful when writting an opinion.
quote: as with E-mail if a word is misspellt.
Trust me Hugh, still if you write the email address correctly, your email can be undelivered or delivered to junk mail folder. This is due to a very complicate system in every email server. That's why I also always check my junk folder to see if there is an important email delievred there. And yes I found one every time.
Now since this thread is RESURRECTED by somebody else (Joe, mind this word), although it has been more than a week, I don't see Stefano has updated the list with sold and unsold ones. This starts annoying me. Stefano, you can see some members here stand over you. You must respect them.
I am not taking anyone side just want to stand clear and fair.
You are not responsible for selling them, sure because you just posted somebody's else films. But since you the one posted the list you RESPONSIBLE to update it so people know which one is sold. And you have promised it to Doug openly in this thread.
Please do that now.
I don't like to find a member is enjoying other member to see his mouth watering without any certainity for the films of his interest, as shown in 16mm forum between Leon vs Mike Willliamson (now the thread is closed due to an even worst situation)
Cheers.
-------------------- Winbert
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