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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 26, 2015 03:32 PM

That's really interesting Paul, I shall look out for him now next time I watch mine.

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Roger Shunk
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posted February 26, 2015 06:15 PM

I have both in Super8mm & 16mm since I'm collecting more 16mm films now. Both are great!

I purchased the L&H DVD The Essential 10 disc Collection. The picture quality is quite stunning on my DLP Projector since they were remastered from the 35mm negative. Disc 10 features on location with the boys where they tour the actual filming locations of their most popular shorts where they show before & after video of all the popular on location shots including the famous stairs.

The "Music Box" steps still exist. Oddly enough it took years to find them. It's hard to imagine an object that is stationary, several hundred feet long and weighs hundreds of tons getting "lost", but there was a lot of confusion over which of several sets of steps in the area it was and the surroundings have changed a lot.

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posted February 26, 2015 06:45 PM

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It's hard to imagine an object that is stationary, several hundred feet long and weighs hundreds of tons getting "lost",

Really Roger? And I thought you were the best magician on the forum! [Big Grin]

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Osi Osgood
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posted February 27, 2015 11:37 AM

I had forgotten Charley's name, and he was in a number of the features. I remember him in the "Dentist' scene from "Pardon Us"

" He says his tooth buzzes! "

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Paul Browning
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posted February 27, 2015 12:57 PM

Yes Osi, he was in virtually all there short films ,along will James Finlayson, and Mae Busche. I just acquired "THERE FIRST MISTAKE", an early one from the boys, she plays ollies wife.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 27, 2015 01:17 PM

I love the faces James Finlayson pulls. They still make me giggle to this day, especially in Way Out West. Just superb timeless comedy.

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posted February 27, 2015 04:19 PM

Yes Andrew you got to love old James, no swearing, no murders, just timeless comedy, perhaps one of the freeview channels could dedicate just one channel to all these comedy greats, they'e not on any of our channels now, just the "so called comedy" with Miranda clap trap, what rubbish that is. Almost every visual joke, has been stolen from either Norman Wisdom, or L&H along with ALL the silent comedy stars, all the prat falls and tom foolery, just not as well done. There will never be another two like these guys, just unique.

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted February 27, 2015 04:23 PM

Just as well we all cling onto our films of these original "funny men" then Paul. We might be the only gang to try these out on future kids.

Now if only we had some Mr Ed, Munsters or Addams Family on 8!!

And yes, I know they are out there on 16 but I don't want to have to move house lol. [Smile]

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posted February 27, 2015 04:37 PM

I'll second that Andrew, lets re visit 1919 Mockingbird Drive on super 8,and Mr ED, just great TV.

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Osi Osgood
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posted February 28, 2015 01:51 PM

I will never forget Jimmy Finlayson in "Big Business", insanely wrestling with a Christmas tree on the ground, near the end of that classic short!!

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Mathew James
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posted March 02, 2015 03:27 PM

James Finlayson is my favourite!! He was great in all these Hal roach comedies.
I love his expressions in 'Mush N Milk' when he calls old cap and spanky picks up the phone....Finlayson asks 'Who is this speaking?" and Spanky looks into the phone and says' I don't know i can't see you'....

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 07, 2015 01:24 PM

I really don't think that anyone did a better "double take" that James Finlayson, especially with the accompanying sound effects that were usually added by the Hal Roach sound editer!

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Paul Barker
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posted March 08, 2015 05:38 AM

re the L&H 10 disc essentials collection on dvd. this is reckoned to be superior in quality compared to the universal released set. can anyone confirm this. thank you.

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Roger Shunk
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posted March 08, 2015 08:33 AM

Paul,
I purchased the L&H DVD The Essential 10 disc collection. The picture quality is quite stunning on my DLP Projector since they were remastered from the 35mm negative.

The Essential box set collection is supposed to be one of the best! The picture quality on all the 10 discs is razor sharp &
quite amazing!

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Paul Barker
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posted March 08, 2015 11:56 AM

many thanks Roger. that is of great help to me. thank you.

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Mathew James
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posted March 09, 2015 11:01 AM

'The picture quality is quite stunning on my DLP Projector since they were remastered from the 35mm negative.'

@Roger- You bring up an interesting point!...

See, this is the reason I opted out of buying the DVD set...for now... [Smile]

We have a couple digital version of some of our super 8's and the kids don't like to watch them on the DVD...they look too good. There is something beautiful(in a strange way i suppose) about the dust and scratches, as long as they are not too many [Smile]

Last week here in Hamilton, Ontario, I brought the kids to Mother's Pizza http://mothersrestaurants.com/ .This place is really nostalgic for many in this area because they were the only one's back in the 70's-80's who continuously played the oldies on super 8! You could watch Laurel and Hardy or Chaplin or whatever while eating pizza- FANTASTIC! Well anyways, although the food is still GREAT, it really bothered me watching laughing gravy on a 60 LED, mint quality.....while they had no sound turned on and some other radio music playing while we tried to watch.
Long live Dust and Scratches!
Cheers,
Matt

ps: btw- if you don't mind me asking, what kind of DLP did you end up with? I ask because i was looking at the elmo 85HD at one point. Looks amazing!

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted March 09, 2015 12:25 PM

I completely agree with you Mathew! There is nothing more bizarre I find, than watching a 1930's black and white movie, warts and all, on a 1080p digital projector!

They simply do not go together IMHO.

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Roger Shunk
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posted March 09, 2015 12:53 PM

Greetings Matthew,

I have a Toshiba DLP TDP-XP2U. Has the Texas Instruments Brilliant Color Technology which makes a big difference in the color & picture quality. I had looked at another projector without it and there was a big difference in the color & sharpness of the picture quality especially on a blu ray disc.

Roger

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Mathew James
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posted March 09, 2015 05:09 PM

Thanx very much for that info Roger! I will research the one you got as well to narrow down which one I will like eventually. I like the whole idea projecting onto the wall rather than a TV!
Cheers,
Matt

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Roger Shunk
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posted March 09, 2015 06:54 PM

Sure Mathew,
Do some research first on the projectors that is what I did and from what I read the best ones for picture quality are the ones that have the Texas Instruments Brilliant Technology. It has to do something with the color wheel because the colors on my projector are super vivid.

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Steve Klare
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posted March 09, 2015 10:39 PM

Wow!

This topic certainly has evolved!

Where did Stan and Ollie go?

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Paul Adsett
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posted March 10, 2015 07:05 AM

Another fine mess of a thread! [Big Grin]

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Steve Klare
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posted March 10, 2015 07:57 AM

I meant well when I started it!

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 10, 2015 02:13 PM

You did well, Steve, there's just so many tiny elements to any topic that can send it out in the middle of nowhere!

Classic film that every single super 8 film collection should have, (unless, of course, there is someone out there that hates the Lads!)

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Joe Caruso
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posted March 12, 2015 02:58 PM

For me, the boxed films suffice

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