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Topic: The Music Box, Laurel and Hardy, 1932
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Paul Browning
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From: West Midlands United Kingdom
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posted March 12, 2015 04:26 PM
Yes we love em!!!!, even after 80 odd years later, the visual gags, the word play, the look to camera was all done way back then. In fact morecome and wise did a regular sketch on there show, where they would share a bed and do the comedy, and they were big fans of the boys, that's why they did it too. Stan was certainly married a few times for sure, and was paid more than Ollie, in an agreement with Hal roach studios, he did the gag writing for the films along with Harold Lloyd, while Ollie played golf. His pay was incredible, considering these were made during the depression in the early 30's, when most were singing for there supper literally.
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Mathew James
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From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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posted March 13, 2015 12:13 AM
One of the main things that drew us towards really enjoying L & H was the fact that we were a family who grew up watching Gilligan's Island, and although super corny to many, extremely enjoyable to others. My 3 kids are in the 8 to 13 age range now, so when they were younger, they really like watching GI. So it was naturally when I got into Super 8's and we started watching L&H, we were so surprised to learn how much Alan Hale and Bob Denver used of Hardy and Laurel in their characters. For example, the skipper stare...that is, every time gilligan blunders and skipper is affected in some capacity, he then looks at the camera with that classic 'fed-up' look:
which was totally borrowed from Ollie(James Finlayson does it too sometimes!):
Also, the hand gestures skipper always does, as if to say 'I'm staying right here' and twirls his index finger a couple of times before pointing down....that totally comes from Ollie...
The way skipper hits or picks on Gilligan, Ollie picking on Laurel, to a tee! etc...etc...
The Music Box is great. Apparently, there was a silent film called 'Hat's Off' that was remade with sound with some changes, which they called The Music Box. There is no copy of this film found, although, a reconstruction of the main ideas from pictures can be watched here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WbrXEMU6E
Cheers,
Matt
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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted March 18, 2015 12:13 PM
The "Lads" deserve every bit O praise that they have received!
They're comedy (as well as many of the classic comedians) show how laugh out loud funny, doesn't have to be toilet humor.
I was just reminded of my favorite moments from "Towed in the Hole", those lovely shots, from smaller and smaller placed, as Stan stares up at a paint drenched Ollie, (who Stan has inadvertedly showered with the paint), and after many shots back and forth (with Ollie glaring menaceingly), Stan then looks perplexed and asks ...
"Why do you have paint on you're head?"
... to which Ollie is about to reply, catches himself, staring into the camera ...
next shot, Stan now has two black eyes! (or was it one?)
magnificent gag!
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Osi Osgood
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posted June 16, 2015 02:28 PM
I read about the second half of some prints of the Music Box being fuzzy in image, and I'm happy to report that mine is great on both reels (whew!)
Joseph, in the early 1980's, Blackhawk, due to the problem that you were just mentioning, made brand new negatives of they're best selling titles for re-release as those "Silver Box Editions" and where possible, did they're best to get even better material, (for instance, original title cards if available or in some cases, original the end cards, which at times, the earlier releases wouldn't have), and in nearly all the cases, these later silver box editions better.
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