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Jason Moffatt
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From: Denham, Buckinghamshire, UK
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posted May 08, 2018 01:38 PM

I have a few 1960s std 8mm glamour films that are on 16mm, there are 2 identical films side by side.I know about the small splitters you can get on ebay etc but i’ve heard that it is not easy to do.Has anyone tried doing this,Is there an easy way ?.

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Can Sanalan
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posted May 08, 2018 03:58 PM

Hi Jason,

That sounds interesting, having not seen the strip myself it could possible be a 3D film. If you're saying the images are exactly the same and they're both facing the same way/direction then it could possible be shot in 3D (On closer inspection you might notice slight left to right perspective change, which is what you'd get if something was shot in 3D).
From my understanding of using an 8mm camera some had cartridges which contained 16mm, you'd film on one side and when you reached the end you swap the cassette over to the other side and continue on filming. So you'll have two strips of 8mm on 16mm, however the images on each strip of 8mm will be facing in the opposite direction.

I mean I could be completely wrong here but from what you wrote that's what initially came to my mind.

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Jason Moffatt
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posted May 09, 2018 03:24 AM

Hi can, no they are not 3D they are normal std 8mm films, one runs forward and the other which is along side of it runs backwards.There are sprocket holes on both sides so that when it is split you have two copies of the film with the holes on the correct side on each one.I have not tried projecting them on my 16mm projector yet but i would inagine you would see 4 frames at a time with 2 on one side being upside down, i think they would run to fast as well.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted May 09, 2018 09:54 AM

Jason
Have you seen this on eBay. It sounds just what you need.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CINE-FILM-SPLITTING-TRIMMER-CUTTER-SPLITTER-KNIFE-for-16mm-to-2x8mm/173299786513?hash=item285978e311:g:1JMAAOSwi3ta6ue5

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Jason Moffatt
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From: Denham, Buckinghamshire, UK
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posted May 09, 2018 09:59 AM

Hi maurice, yes ive seen them but ive heard it is still not easy.Anyway, i have now transfered them from the bobins on to reels and played them and unfortunatly they are all negatives so no point splitting them really.

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Maurice Leakey
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posted May 09, 2018 10:25 AM

What a disappointment. [Embarrassed]

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Brian Fretwell
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From: London, UK
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posted May 11, 2018 06:41 AM

That splitter came the Russian LOMO developing tank and the one I had wasn't very accurate, one side was cut wider than the other - very awkward when editing home movies.

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