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Osi Osgood
Film God
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 08, 2009 08:33 AM
O.K., I've got that too, but then, what is that "hardware" or whatever, (I don't know what it would be called), that automatically enters one bid higher amounts than what was last bid.
No matter how high you bid, it enters one bid higher?
It would be nice to at least identify that.
I knew what snipe bidding was, but on that one detail I had it wrong, (that no matter what you bid, the "snipe" program will bid higher).
I think a better title for this series of posts would have been "Snipe 101" ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Mike Peckham
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: West Sussex, UK.
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 08, 2009 09:55 AM
Osi
You still don't get it do you? ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I don't think there is software such as you describe and even if it were possible to create such a programme it would be unecessary.
If you really wanted to buy a film or anything else at any price then all you need to do is put a ridiculously high proxy bid in.
Say in the above scenario you wanted to buy Pop Eye & Ali ba ba at any cost you could have put a proxy bid in of say £1,000,000. you would still only have paid £35.50 for it though because that was the amount necessary to out bid the next highest bidder.
It's extremely unlikely that you would get out bid at £1,000,000 but if someone did put in a proxy bid (or a snipe) of say £1,500,000 they would win Pop Eye for £1,000,005.
I'm not surprised Ebay has been such a bad experience for you, perhaps now you understand it a bit better you can start to enjoy it! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Mike
ps: I'm not advocating putting £1,000,000 bids in for anything! Just thought I'd mention that before the law suits start pouring in... ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted August 08, 2009 10:56 AM
Hang on a second John - let's not get "heavy" about this. No one, as far as I can see, is "having a go at Osi" about not understanding "sniping", or "of having issues with E-Bay".
Just merely trying to help him understand a process and keep the subject "light".
E-Bay is there,like it or not. No one makes anyone use it, against their will - it's the individuals choice. As for bidding preferences, again it's a matter of choice.
If the type of software that you suspect exists, are E-bay going to do anything about it? I doubt it, because at the end of the day, they still get paid.
As for being "ripped off" - it's not a monopoly thing - most of us collectors have been there also, at times.
You pays your money and takes your chance.
"If you don't want to win the lottery, don't buy a ticket!"
It's all about choice in the end.
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 08, 2009 01:56 PM
Just to let Jeff, Mike and everyone else know ...
I don't feel put on. It is very hard to actually "get under my skin" and no one has on this forum to this day.
Believe me, I do understand what sniping is. What I think I have been talking about all this time is NOT snipe bidding altogether.
It's another whole program.
I'm sure that John and I can't be the only ones who know about this software. Perhaps I have not been explaining myself clearly enough. I'll give it one more go.
As someone already said, snipe bidding really isn't necessary, unless one is not able to be there for the end of the auction.
After all, I can, at the very end of the auction put on the auction ...
(hey, I think Mikes idea was good, lets all make 1,000.000 dollar bids ...... now THERE'S good sarcasm!)
... an outrageously high bid, and other bidders, find themselves being constantly "beat to the punch", seemingly making it look like no matter how much they bid, they will be outbid.
No, what I was talking about is this ...
A program that does not have an outrageously high bid put on it by the bidder. What I'm talking about is a program that, in and of itself, automatically bids up one dollar or more than the highest bid. Once being set into motion, the bidder need not even make an outrageous high bid, as the program automatically bids up.
The snipe bid program doesn't do anything automatically, except place that one high bid that the bidder entered into the program, to be delivered in the last ten or so seconds of the auction. The snipe bid software only enters one bid and does not automatically enter more4 bids. Once again, I get that.
Believe me, I state, yet once again, that I KNOW what a snipe program is, and at least I have learned one thing ... that I was mistaking snipe software for this other program.
Micheal, I am talking about this other program, and not snipe programs.
At any rate, I didn't get me "Popeye" film.
Oh ... and Keith ...
Was it the "Music Man" ? I'm sure the quote, "It happens to me all the time" was from "The Music Man" ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
once again, to make very clear, I don't feel like I've been beat on or insulted in any ... I LUV YOU GUYS!!
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 08, 2009 06:29 PM
I don't think it's necessarily non-existent.
It would work fine, as long as two of the same program/software didn't face off against each other. It would have to then, as part of the program, be able to identify, before going into operation, as to whether there was already another of the same program already tacked onto an auction, at which point, it would state so, to avoid two of the same software bidding an item up to infinity, (though that would be awful darn funny).
... and, to avoid such a mishap, it would only bid-up in the last seconds. Even two software programs of the same kind can only bid up so much in ten seconds and be successful.
John may have better info on it.
This is actually turning into a very interesting read!
To bad I DON'T have the technical skills to make such a software, IF it doesn't exist ... (snicker!)
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John W. Black
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Deptford,N.J.
Registered: Mar 2008
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posted August 08, 2009 11:12 PM
Look in the Classified in Classic Images.I think june or july,don't worry,it's avalible online.It's funny,I spend very little time online and I've heard of it.And,from my understanding,theres nop need for snipe bidding.If I bid $50 on sonething a day before an auction ends and that's all I intend to pay,there's no need for it,is there?And yes,while I've used ebay,it ain't perfect and if people would offer up enough complaints to ebay rather than coddle it,problems and all,you might be able to get some of the bad parts of ebay fixed.
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