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Jim Schrader
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 - posted March 07, 2005 06:32 AM      Profile for Jim Schrader   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
what can one do about a film that is made wrong, the framing is messed up, the frame line is even with the sprockets on a super 8 sound film, adjusting the framer does not work, has anybody ever run across this problem?

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Adrian Winchester
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 - posted March 07, 2005 12:17 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've never heard of a film where the frame line is so far out of position. I'm not aware of any normal projector that offers enough adjustment to cope with this. I think the only way to make the film watchable would be to find a lab that can copy the print and correct the frame line position while doing so. This may be possible, but would cost so much that it would have to be a very special film to justify the expense.
Adrian

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Jan Bister
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 - posted March 07, 2005 09:14 PM      Profile for Jan Bister   Email Jan Bister   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Agreed (I wonder what kind of film this is?) - if it's really important that it be viewable, another option might be a projector modification: vertically enlarge the gate so that more than one frame at a time becomes visible and is projected onscreen - it wouldn't look pretty but it would allow you to watch the film full-frame (with an extra half-frame at the top or bottom which you'd just have to ignore)... or alternatively, make adjustments to the claw (maybe bend it?)... there just doesn't seem to be a way to watch such a film without some major hoopla...

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Dan Lail
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This film couldn't be "Who Misframed Roger Rabbit" could It? [Smile]

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Kevin Faulkner
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 - posted March 08, 2005 06:47 AM      Profile for Kevin Faulkner         Edit/Delete Post 
I have to say that I have never heard of a film being so out of spec. What is the film and who released it?
I dont think there is any machine out there with enough adjustment to cope with that and I certainly wouldnt play with a machine to make it cope as it could end up being out of adjustment for correctly printed film.

Kev.

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Jim Schrader
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it is "It Came from outer space" from universal 8 the film is complete and come with four pairs of 3-d glasses, the case and the glasses might be worth something to the right person

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Dan Lail
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What a shame! Maybe you could adjust it as far up or down as it will move and still project smoothly, then mask off part of lens to hide the frame line. That's what I have done on some of the films I've show to hide subtitles. [Smile]

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Jim Schrader
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It is smack dab in the middle not much i can do with it, but thanks for the advice

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Chip Gelmini
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Just taking a guess.... 9.5mm by any chance? Not super 8 at all?

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Jan Bister
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If it were 9.5mm how would he even be able to run it through his projector, I think he'd be having much bigger problems than a frame line across the screen [Big Grin]

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Chip Gelmini
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 - posted March 08, 2005 08:56 PM      Profile for Chip Gelmini     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK I admit it...I might not have paid 100% attention to this post. But I assumed it had not been run and a logical guess would have been to check it before running through a machine.

Jan....thanks for the laughs!!!!! :-)

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