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Ian Morgan
Junior
Posts: 3
From: Lansing, MI
Registered: Jun 2006

posted June 30, 2006 06:37 PM

Hey all, this is my first post, and my first adventure in 8mm filmmaking. As the topic states, does anyone know the shutter speed for a Canon 510? My in-camera light meter is non-functional due to irreplaceable batteries. I tried searching, but didn't find anything.

I know it's not the best camera, but it's a start. I also have a Bolex cement splicer on the way for use with my Plus-X film, and a Goko editor too.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Ian

P.S. Advice on a relatively inexpensive (read: hobby), multi-optional camera would be great too.

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted June 30, 2006 07:10 PM

Welcome Ian [Smile]

I can't actually say I've heard of a Canon 510 model... only the 514... also, are you sure the batteries cannot be replaced? If they are of the 1.35V button cell type, you can in fact use zinc-air batteries made by Wein (also 1.35V) as a replacement. Hope this is of some help. [Smile]

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Knut Nordahl
Expert Film Handler

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From: Norway
Registered: Dec 2005

posted July 01, 2006 02:24 AM

Hi.

You can find some info here:

http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/camera/cine/f_index.html

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P.S. Advice on a relatively inexpensive (read: hobby), multi-optional camera would be great too.

Canon Auto Zoom 814 Electronic

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

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From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted July 01, 2006 05:02 AM

Jan beat me in giving you a warm welcome Ian. Anyway welcome a board the 8mm forum. There are loads of people on this forum with interests in just about every area of small format film making , projecting and collecting so I hope you will feel at home and also take part in the many varied topics whenever you want to.

I reckon this must be one of the lagest small gauge film forums on the net now with a membership going toward the 600 mark. Great stuff.

Kev.

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Ian Morgan
Junior
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From: Lansing, MI
Registered: Jun 2006

posted July 01, 2006 08:02 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome.

You're right, my camera is a 518. I typed the wrong number!

I have been to that Canon site Knut, but it does not tell shutter speed. Anyone know? I find it strange that I can't seem to find it anywhere. I'll look into that 814 you suggested. The variable fps is something I really would like.

Also, anyone have a good location for buying cement for splicing in the U.S.?

Ian

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Knut Nordahl
Expert Film Handler

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From: Norway
Registered: Dec 2005

posted July 01, 2006 08:56 AM

Is it the Zoom 518, AutoZoom 518 or AutoZoom 518SV?

The AutoZoom 518 has one hidden AA battery in the handle.
The AutoZoom 518 SV has 4 AAs in the handle.

I think they all use 2x 1.35 cells for the light meter. Access on the left side.

Shutter angle on most non XL cameras i think is between 150 to 180 degrees. The Canon AZ-814-E(not just AZ version, because it needs the 1,35 volt cells) is 150 degrees. From the manual I can quote:

18 fps: 1/43 sec.
24 fps: 1/58 sec.

the 518 is 160 degrees.

Hope that helps.

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Ian Morgan
Junior
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From: Lansing, MI
Registered: Jun 2006

posted July 01, 2006 07:57 PM

Thanks Kurt,

I guess I was a little confused. I knew that my 518 was 18fps, but I thought that was in connection with the film? Even though the film passes by at 18 frames/second, I wasn't thinking that the shutter speed would necessarily be the same? I can see an error.

I do not, however, see what shutter angle has to do with any of this. That's the range of view I have from side to side, correct?

Thanks for all the help! Your fractions helped greatly to take some measurements with my light meter this afternoon.

Ian

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted July 02, 2006 12:01 AM

"Shutter speed" and "shutter angle" are closely related terms, actually - you're thinking of the zoom lens' zoom range which can go from wide-angle (zoomed out) to what one could call "narrow angle" (zoomed in) which is the telephoto setting. The shutter angle determines how large or small the "slice" of the shutter is that lets light through, thereby affecting the exposure time for each film frame and thus the brightness. In fact, fade-ins and fade-outs on film are done by continuously closing the shutter during filming until it's completely closed (0-degree angle), or opening it up again during a fade-in from 0 to whatever its normal angle is. Hope I've explained this without too much confusion... [Smile]

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